NHS reforms

[Bolton Midnight]

There's a lot more than 1 of these non jobs, so it would have to save millions (what it will end up costing the taxpayer).

It is not up to the council to try and educate re food they should concentrate on parks, libraries, bin collections and the like.

Labour Manchester - wasting money and cutting the front line | Local Government

Spending cuts have to be made. The public sector grew by over 0.9 million between 1997 and 2010, a staggering 17 per cent, so it would be irresponsible to suggest that there will not be job losses, there has to be. Paying staff is the main cost for many public sector organisations and this has increased to an untenable amount.

[Bolton Midnight]

BBC News - Royal Lancaster Infirmary faces A&E closure threat

marvellous

[ArrowsFA1]

UK's largest medical college says the health and social care bill will 'damage patient care and jeopardise the NHS'

Royal College of GPs calls for David Cameron to scrap health bill | Society | The Guardian

The NHS is not in peril if these reforms don’t go ahead. On the contrary, it is the Bill which threatens to derail and fragment the NHS into a collection of competing private providers. The Bill will result in hundreds of different organisations pulling against each other, leading to fragmentation, chaos and damage to the quality and availability of patient care.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/l...l-the-NHS.html

[Bolton Midnight]

They need to cut costs, and best way to achieve that is to sack thousands of managers/admin types.

People are living longer, medicines and treatments are getting more expensive so something needs doing. Sitting around thinking it is all fine and dandy is not the answer as it clearly is not.

[ArrowsFA1]

People are living longer, medicines and treatments are getting more expensive so something needs doing.

Agreed, however the key point is that the "something" this government is implementing has been seen as "damaging, unnecessary and expensive", will "cause irreparable damage to patient care", and will lead to "a fragmented, expensive and bureaucratic health service" leading ultimately to a system where care will be "defined by a patient's ability to pay".

[Bolton Midnight]

Some parts of it maybe, but that does not mean it is all bad, do you see that?

Or have you a vested interest in things remaining as they are now?

Slash and burn - only way out of this mess. A true bloodbath budget not the watered down versions we've been getting so far.

[Bolton Midnight]

Oh and by the way Labour privatised more of the health service than the Tories ever have done or would do in the future.

[ArrowsFA1]

Or have you a vested interest in things remaining as they are now?

My interest is in what those being expected to implement the changes have to say. Those who are treating patients. Those who the government said they would listen to.

[Bolton Midnight]

I'm more interested in the patients and those who are paying for it all.

People pay for a National Health Service that works yet aren't getting that.

[ArrowsFA1]

I'm more interested in the patients and those who are paying for it all.

Fair enough, and have the government listened to their views? After all Cameron promised "no top down reorganisation of the NHS" during the election.

It seems not only does the government not listen but they don't keep their promises either.