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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    An easy way to explain long travel suspension on rallycars is to compare to Motocross bikes. They "invented" the longtravel springs many years before rallycars adapted it. And it made a huge improvement to the motocross bikes. That´s when Ohlins came in to the market.
    Snowmobiles have gone through a similar developmemt curve. From leafsprings in the front and simple coil springs and 'cyclepump' dampers in the back. With very little travelway in both ends.
    Now it is like a competitioncrosser on even a touring scooter! Amazing !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland
    Snowmobiles have gone through a similar developmemt curve. From leafsprings in the front and simple coil springs and 'cyclepump' dampers in the back. With very little travelway in both ends.
    Now it is like a competitioncrosser on even a touring scooter! Amazing !
    Yep, and there I believe one of the key figures was the son of an old friend of mine from 77-79 when i was doing Internationals all around France Pauli Pippola.
    he was travelling with his wife and 5 year old son and i had some enormous fun chasing the kid around and ambushing him and even threw him up (very carefully but he didn't know it) into a tree after "catching him" and swinging him around by one foot and one hand... Google Pauli Pippola and his son and the suspension which it seems he debveloped gets like 1000s of hits.....and if you look hard enough I saw some results for Papa Pippola still doing Historic moto-cross now over 60 but looks like in amazing good shape..

    If I recall Juha Kankunnens commenst from WRC Finland a couple of years ago it was kind of "Motor? Nääääääääääääää Okej, but brakes and suspesnion !!'' and BIG eyes and BIG Smile. that was the most important thing when we went from 175mm travel to 250-then 300mm travel from '74 to 76, it was how hard we could deep into corners and brake so hard and not get kicked off the bike... previously we could use up all the front travel just brakingand have none left for bumps, then we could brake and use up 150-175mm and still have some left.... In the rear the wheel stayed in contact with the ground on the up and dow side of bumps and put down power, and so it was much quicker...
    Too bad our muscles didn't double in the same time frame.

    Now we just sit on our butts in a nice warm, dry car, and mash the gas; so much better!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfp
    Good blog post Antony, was interesting to see how the "helper" spring worked!

    Good picture at the top of the page aswel, where was that taken?

    P.s Did you see your old mate Toni on Top Gear last night?
    Thx! The pic is from Monte, Gap area. I think it's the lac d'Embrun.
    I did not see Toni I don't get topgear. But it'll come on youtube I'm sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulland
    Will you be driving rallies in 2012 Herr Warmbold ?

    If so what is the program?
    I don't know. I wish to participate in the DRM. To be frank, rallying in Germany holds no interest for sponsors. I can't even find proper media stats because since Skoda stopped running officially in the DRM, nobody has had media and spectator viewing stats made. I have, therefore, no numbers to show sponsors. It's sad.
    http://wrcbehindthestages.blogspot.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antony Warmbold
    Thx! The pic is from Monte, Gap area. I think it's the lac d'Embrun.
    I did not see Toni I don't get topgear. But it'll come on youtube I'm sure.
    I may have guessed Monte

    I'll keep an eye on youtube and I'll be sure to post here when I find a link
    Ha'wey Hamilton, bring the WDC crown home and the beers are on me :up:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProRally
    I heard the story once, how this drawing came about.... and where it was drawn....
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    spill the beans Pro!
    +1 Please tell, Pro!
    Ha'wey Hamilton, bring the WDC crown home and the beers are on me :up:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfp
    +1 Please tell, Pro!
    It was drawn in the office of a nice guy who is still involved in WRC, the rest I will tell over a drink when we meet up at some rally !!!
    Passion will make you crazy, but is there a other way to live ? :burnout:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProRally
    It was drawn in the office of a nice guy who is still involved in WRC, the rest I will tell over a drink when we meet up at some rally !!!
    does he still continue to draw?
    Best Rallies;
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProRally
    It was drawn in the office of a nice guy who is still involved in WRC, the rest I will tell over a drink when we meet up at some rally !!!
    I'm up for that!
    Ha'wey Hamilton, bring the WDC crown home and the beers are on me :up:

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