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    DNQ'ers

    Well today saw history, the 2 Hispania drivers saw the first time a driver has failed to qualify for an Grand prix in 9 years. So I looked back to since the 107% rule was first introduced in 1996 to deal with the slow Forti cars, and since the inception of the rule, the shock of it is that a Forti driver is not even top of the failure list, that honour belongs to Mr Ricardo Rosset

    DRIVERS THAT HAVE FAILED TO QUALIFY SINCE THE INTRODUCTION OF THE 107% RULE IN 1996

    SIX: Ricardo Rosset
    FIVE: Luca Badoer, Andrea Montermini
    THREE: Alex Yoong, Giovanni Lavaggi
    ONE: Vitantonio Liuzzi, Narain Karthikeyan, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Enrique Bernoldi, Tarso Marques, Damon Hill, Pedro de la Rosa, Tora Takagi, Marc Gene, Pedro Diniz, Vincenzo Sospiri

    This list also includes the re-admission of the 5 drivers that initially failed to qualify for the French GP in 1999 and also Diniz's re-instatement in Australia 1997
    "Alboreto, into the pits, and im going to stop the startwatch" (Murray Walker, Monaco 1987)

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    And as for in history, here's the top 10 DNQ'ers of all time (includes failures to pre-qualify)

    1. Gabriele Tarquini ................ 40
    2. Bertrand Gachot ................ 35
    3. Roberto Moreno ................ 33
    4. Piercarlo Ghinzani ................ 32
    5. Arturo Merzario ................ 27
    =6. Nicola Larini ................ 25
    =6. Bernd Schneider ................ 25
    =8. Yannick Dalmas ................ 24
    =8. Stefan Johansson ............... 24
    =8. Eric van de Poele ................ 24

    Look further down the list and you'll see some darn good drivers that have the shame of a DNQ on their record, the likes of Derek Warwick, Michele Alboreto (he had a massive 21), Rene Arnoux, and also world champs Keke Rosberg and even the great Ayrton Senna
    "Alboreto, into the pits, and im going to stop the startwatch" (Murray Walker, Monaco 1987)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DazzlaF1
    And as for in history, here's the top 10 DNQ'ers of all time (includes failures to pre-qualify)

    1. Gabriele Tarquini ................ 40
    2. Bertrand Gachot ................ 35
    3. Roberto Moreno ................ 33
    4. Piercarlo Ghinzani ................ 32
    5. Arturo Merzario ................ 27
    =6. Nicola Larini ................ 25
    =6. Bernd Schneider ................ 25
    =8. Yannick Dalmas ................ 24
    =8. Stefan Johansson ............... 24
    =8. Eric van de Poele ................ 24

    Look further down the list and you'll see some darn good drivers that have the shame of a DNQ on their record, the likes of Derek Warwick, Michele Alboreto (he had a massive 21), Rene Arnoux, and also world champs Keke Rosberg and even the great Ayrton Senna
    Am I right in thinking, without looking it up, that John Watson and Niki Lauda both failed to qualify for a GP when they were at McLaren together — possibly in the same season as one of Watson's stunning 'from the back' drives in the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    Am I right in thinking, without looking it up, that John Watson and Niki Lauda both failed to qualify for a GP when they were at McLaren together — possibly in the same season as one of Watson's stunning 'from the back' drives in the USA?
    You think right, both Watson and Lauda failed to qualify for Monaco 83. they were the days of 2 day qualifying and the maximum 20 car grids at Monaco. Both McLaren drivers had problems on the Friday that left them out of the top 20 and then the saturday session was rained off, so they DNQ'd

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-CBP9CCyV8
    "Alboreto, into the pits, and im going to stop the startwatch" (Murray Walker, Monaco 1987)

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    It's a bit hard to include the guys from the 1999 French GP in that list. For that same reason, you could also include all the drivers who couldn't make it in the 2005 Japanese Grand Prix or any race like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N4D13
    It's a bit hard to include the guys from the 1999 French GP in that list. For that same reason, you could also include all the drivers who couldn't make it in the 2005 Japanese Grand Prix or any race like that.
    For once the rule book was sensible - it included a getout clause. The five drivers were over the 107%. But under a different rule, the organisers could decide there were exceptional circumstances and over-rule the 107% limit and allow them to start so they were not officially DNQ's. But sensible things like that confuse the database compilers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Type
    But sensible things like that confuse the database compilers.
    Ah, "the database compilers" and those who sail with them, the "data-based" fans, both of whom seem to possess no end of information, but whose knowledge seems to be, more often than not, not all that deep.
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    Pedro Chaves deserves a special mention. Forget Did Not Quality he did even worse with Did Not Pre-Quality an amazing 13 times.

    Coloni generally was one big disaster and went the entire of the 1990 and 1991 seasons failing to start a single race in either of them. Coloni went onto brighter things when Andrea Moda bought the team... sort of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    Am I right in thinking, without looking it up, that John Watson and Niki Lauda both failed to qualify for a GP when they were at McLaren together — possibly in the same season as one of Watson's stunning 'from the back' drives in the USA?
    I believe three-time world champion Nelson Piquet also failed to qualify, in a Lotus in 1989. I can't recall the race for certain but I think it was the Belgian GP that year.

    It happens to the best of them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezza
    I believe three-time world champion Nelson Piquet also failed to qualify, in a Lotus in 1989. I can't recall the race for certain but I think it was the Belgian GP that year.

    It happens to the best of them!
    Yep, he was even slower than his teammate

    1989 BELGIAN GRAND PRIX PRE QUALIFYING - BOTTOM 10

    Pole Time: Ayrton Senna (McLaren) ........ 1m 50.687

    21. Jonathan Palmer (Tyrrell) ........ + 5.733
    22. Michele Alboreto (Larrousse/Lola) ........ + 5.749
    23. Bertrand Gachot (Onyx) ........ + 5.849
    24. Eddie Cheever (Arrows) ........ + 5.881
    25. Luis Sala (Minardi) ........ + 6.090
    26. Olivier Grouillard (Ligier) ........ + 6.160
    ----------- DID NOT QUALIFY --------------------
    27. Satoru Nakajima (Lotus) ........ + 6.384
    28. Nelson Piquet (Lotus) ........ + 6.904
    29. Christian Danner (RIAL) ........ + 9.380
    30. Pierre-Henri Raphanel (RIAL) ........ + 12.070
    "Alboreto, into the pits, and im going to stop the startwatch" (Murray Walker, Monaco 1987)

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