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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv
    But as you raised the F1 as subject, this is the score table for engine manufacturers - List of Formula One World Drivers' Champions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, and here for constrictors - List of Formula One World Drivers' Champions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I don't see Frenchman as big record breakers, they are even behind Ford here - LOL
    Yes, the French are big record breakers if you compare it with how few years the have entered F1 - first Matra and the Ligier and then Renault. Ford is american so that doesn't really help you German "fight".

    PS: There is something wrong in that Wiki-table you are linking to. Mercedes have never won an F1 Constructors championship. When they won i 1954 & 1955 it was only a drivers championship. The same goes for Alfa Romeo.
    Supporting Ogier in the WRC & Ferrari in F1 & Ducati in MotoGP.

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    Whatever... I don't know how all this is related to Hirvonen though...
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Urgh !!! Mikko very very slow on that first leg of RAC Wales Rally UK today friday(5th overall...for now)
    But I'm confident though he will gain positions tomorrow and sunday(certainly helped by some others in front)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
    Urgh !!! Mikko very very slow on that first leg of RAC Wales Rally UK today friday(5th overall...for now)
    But I'm confident though he will gain positions tomorrow and sunday(certainly helped by some others in front)
    Mikko after 9 rallies shows that Citroen isn t a supercar(even in asphalt)
    Same performance as at Ford.

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    After last 2 Rallies (Germany & GB), what do you think of Hirvonen as Citroen N1 next year if Loeb goes? It might turn out Ford will have faster drivers next year.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Mikko, I hope you realize that should you be the first driver of Citroen Total Abu Dhabi World Rally Team, cruising won't be enough !!!! They expect wins !! From you, from gravel. And most of all, from NORF !!!!! So I hope yopu enjoy the rest of this season, then think really hard how to change your attitude and deliver next year ! Because the pace right..... that's not going to be enough.
    Another Flying Finn

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    Mikko will proove to all Loeb haters how much good was Loeb.
    Remember plenty of times that Loeb won ''cause'' every team mate wasn t allowed.
    Lets see the only real last years Loebs contenter how fast,and how many wins will gain at 2013 now as No1 at same team with same car.

    If any of these Loeb haters want a bet feel free.

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    yeah, you have a point. But Mikko is also quite slow.

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    GO MIKKO !!!! Sardigna is the best chance for you to win in 2012(excluding Portugal) !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
    GO MIKKO !!!! Sardigna is the best chance for you to win in 2012(excluding Portugal) !!!
    Oh yeah I forgot about Portugal! Damn, this has actually been a really good season for Mikko, and here he is still winless because of a technicality. I hope he makes the finish line in Sardinia. When has the second best driver in a season not won a single rally!?

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