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12th February 2011, 07:47 #11
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All of the above cautionary posts are right to point out the variables of the winter testing regimes, etc, but to give the boy his due - it's still a fast time in good company, don't ya think?
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12th February 2011, 09:16 #12
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To m,e Ricciardo is a future F1 star. Does that mean he deserves to go straight into a Red BUll seat? No. I suggest he is given this season to develop enough, and then he may be ready for a Toro Rosso seat in 2012.
As for the current Toro Rosso drivers, both were put in too early in their careers, hence why neither have shined much. However, this is a vital season for them, and If they don't show themselves to be special this year they both could be out at the end of the year, maybe before. Either way, I think Ricciardo will be the replacement.Congratulations Sebastian Vettel. Champion of the season of seasons.
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12th February 2011, 10:00 #13
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Originally Posted by TheFamousEccles
Bottom line: Testing times are pointless! Do you seriously think this is how they'll look in proper dry Q3 qualifying at Bahrain??
1. Felipe Massa Ferrari 01:20.709 101
2. Sergio Perez Sauber 01:21.483 94
3. Mark Webber Red Bull 01:21.522 94
4. Daniel Ricciardo Scuderia Toro Rosso 01:21.755 31
5. Lewis Hamilton McLaren 01:21.914 58
6. Jaime Alguersuari Scuderia Toro Rosso 01:22.689 42
7. Adrian Sutil Force India F1 01:23.472 28
8. Vitaly Petrov Renault 01:23.504 57
9. Nico Rosberg Mercedes Grand Prix 01:23.963 67
10. Jarno Trulli Lotus F1 01:24.458 54
11. Timo Glock Virgin Racing 01:25.086 42
12. Pastor Maldonado Williams 01:34.968 14
Honestly, it was nothing more than a random lap time. He may be good, but he's not superman. The kid posts a semi-decent lap time and the Australian fox sports website blows it out of proportion. This nut-hugging will do him a world of favor though. More patriotic Australians are going to buy this, he's going to get some more sponsors and he might even get a race seat by mid-2011. I'll be interested to see what he can really do.
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12th February 2011, 22:47 #14
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There's so much more to being an F1 driver than setting a quick time in some tests. He won't get any worse doing the extra year in WSR. He couldn't put the title away last year, and that alone is reason enough not to put him in F1 yet. You rush these guys up, their confidence gets killed, and then they're never the same. If Red Bull have learned anything from their development exploits in all forms of motor racing, there's no harm in doing extra time in the juniors. More often than not, they'll be Liuzzi/Speed/Buemi/Alguersuari "what ifs" and not Vettel.
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13th February 2011, 02:00 #15
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Originally Posted by Mr. MisterMarco Simoncelli 1987-2011
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13th February 2011, 02:33 #16
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ok, so don't agree. Whatever, the Ricciardo lad is doing his job well and has the Torro Rosso name at the part of the charts where most people bother to look, and isn't that the point?
Oh, and before anyone says it again, I agree (as I stated in my previous post) that watching testing performance and equating it to outright performance is misleading and often evinces responses like those above.
And when I say "most people", i mean the not so fanatical observer, as opposed to the dour, humourless bunch of nerds that seem to inhabit this board (I'm looking at you, X)
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13th February 2011, 08:39 #17
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When I read the thread title I thought I had been sleeping for a month and the qualis in Bahrain had started!!!!! thank god
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13th February 2011, 09:35 #18
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13th February 2011, 15:45 #19
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Originally Posted by thunderboltRiccardo Patrese - 256GPs 1977-1993
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14th February 2011, 00:47 #20
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Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
Dan WILL get his drive, but the last thing he needs at the moment is to be running around in 2010's Championship winning car. Imagine the pressure!!
He should get a run this year or next in a Toro.... and that's fine. Kid will be a star, but it's all about managing his entry.Ayrton Senna, Legend. R.I.P.
\"If you no longer go for a gap that exists, you are no longer a racing driver. Because we are competing. We are competing to win. And the main motivation to all of us is to compete for a victory. It is not to come third, fourth, fifth or sixth. I race to win\".
Meeke had a big gap to Rossel after stage 3 (20 sec) at stage 4 had a puncture and now the gap to Rossel is just 2 sec Gryazin strangely slow,anybody now why?...
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