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9th December 2010, 17:01 #11
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Well, as a start, a simple standard question to wannabe parents could be:
"Does either of the following apply to your current home:
A) Is is on wheels?
B) Are vehicle parts strewn about the front lawn?
C) Is a toilet featured as a lawn ornament?"
If "yes" is answered to any of the above, manditory sterilization.“If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti
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9th December 2010, 18:26 #12
I had this conversation with one of my work colleagues before I came back to University. I was trying to make a point that the world is becoming overpopulated and that there are only finite resources, and she simply focussed on the fact that she had 2 children, may want more, and that you can't take away people's freedoms like that.
But the act of good governance is sometimes telling people what they can and can't have, for the greater good and comfort of the population. Sometimes this telling is direct, as in a dictatorship, but it can also be achieved by making it harder to have children and taking away the benefits. But I feel that it has to be done.
I'm currently studying for a postgraduate degree in sustainable water management, and I have a particular interest in water resources. It is [wildly] speculated that in the future wars could be fought over water because as we get a larger population there is more stress, especially with climate changing and people living in water stressed areas (Las Vegas anyone). How can we feed this population increasing exponentially when we struggle to irrigate our crops, move water hundreds of miles and consume yet more natural ecosystems and landscapes to build yet another housing estate (SE England).
It's ridiculous. You have to control the breeding of people in certain stressed areas or we're just going to end up having ****ty little lives in the future.
The thing is, many governments don't want to encourage a stabilized population as more people = more economic development. In a capitalist world, how can you win the votes if your economy isn't continually developing/building debt/having a strong workforce.
I am a strong supporter of the Optimum Population Trust - see http://www.optimumpopulation.org/
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9th December 2010, 19:20 #13
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Good one!!!
Originally Posted by AndySpeed
You are an example of the younger generation looking at taking charge and helping save our planet.
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9th December 2010, 19:26 #14
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Originally Posted by fandango
In a lot of countries which don't possess social security and/or an old age pension system, people are supported in their old age by their children.
Originally Posted by Roamy
- A couple living in Lincoln Nebraska who lives in a three bedroom house and drive a Dodge Ram OR a couple living in Abuja, Nigeria who live in a one room hut?
If you bear in mind that the average American eats roughly 12 times the calories that the average Nigerian does, and therefore has a far bigger environmental footprint in growing the food in the first place, are you now suggesting that the first appropriate target should be the United States?The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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9th December 2010, 19:50 #15
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Originally Posted by glauisteanMichael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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9th December 2010, 19:51 #16
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The police could do us some good in the UK by ridding us of some of those protesters in London
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9th December 2010, 19:57 #17
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Originally Posted by AndySpeed
And it has to start with kicking out the stupid politicians who think that the only economically sustainable model is with more and more kids in order to support more and older people every day.
I think that money being handed out to people with the only scope of encouraging them to procreate is a huge mistake.
My personal belief is that 2 children per family should be the limit (and I don't think is a bad case) while certainly 1 children per family (like in China) would be optimum for at least a few decades.
Couple this with responsible food politics and you get a highly sustainable society and environment.
What we are doing right now, producing 2 x the needed amount of food while more than 60% of the worlds population is living under the poverty limit and 50% is starving is not viable from any POV.Michael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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9th December 2010, 20:02 #18
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Originally Posted by race aficionadoMichael Schumacher The Best Ever F1 Driver
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Originally Posted by Roamy
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Originally Posted by Rollo
glauistean while a photo is not in the cards, I can assure you that my family has done their part. Many on this forum can take pleasure to know this family tree is done. And I can take pleasure knowing I will have no grand children enduring what is coming to the future generations of this world. I have very little faith in people addressing any of the problems that are multiplying so rapidly.Obama to Biden - "Let the Welfare checks rain upon the Earth - I am going to a barbecue"
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