WRCar 10 & 11 - Time difference

[Sulland]

The whole thinking behind the change for next year was: Cost, complexity and speed down.

Lets have a betting contest:

1. How much time difference will there be btw the 2010 WRCar and the 2011 model per km SS in Sweden and in GB - Just to see the development ?

2. What year will the 1.6T WRC be quicker than the 2010 2.0T model ?

[navtheace]

Hi Sulland.

My guesses

1. 2 to 3 seconds a KM slower approx for the first few events.

2. Before 2011 is completed, I think the 1.6 wrc's will be just about getting to the same speed as 2 litre wrc's.

Good topic and lets keep this topic alive so we can check how things are after each event in 2011. Lets hear everyone elses guess

[pettersolberg29]

I was thinking nearer 1.5s/km slower in Sweden, and 1s/km slower in GB.
1.6T will be as quick by mid 2012 I think.

[cali]

Hi Sulland.

My guesses

1. 2 to 3 seconds a KM slower approx for the first few events.

2. Before 2011 is completed, I think the 1.6 wrc's will be just about getting to the same speed as 2 litre wrc's.

Good topic and lets keep this topic alive so we can check how things are after each event in 2011. Lets hear everyone elses guess

2-3 sec slower means that those cars are as slow as S2000. This is no way possible!
My prediction is 0,5 - 1 sec per km slower. By the end of this season or during 2011 new WRCars are equal with 2.0 Turbo.

[noel157]

2-3 sec slower means that those cars are as slow as S2000. This is no way possible!
My prediction is 0,5 - 1 sec per km slower. By the end of this season or during 2011 new WRCars are equal with 2.0 Turbo.

+1.

[navtheace]

Good point about my 2-3 secs slower, as like pointed out. The S2000 are like that and 1.6T are quicker than S2000.

Another point (3)

3. How much will the 1.6 T wrcars sell for in 2011? compared to what 2 litre WRCars sold for when they were current.

I know not a world rally car. But can we add in discussion of 2011 R4 to 2010 GpN too as point 4

4.. How much quicker per KM will the 2011 R4 rally cars be than 2010 GpN ?

If everyone follows the numbers when answering so we can see a clear layout to follow throughout 2011 in this topic. Nice topic Sulland

[mm1]

WRC 1,6t will be 0,5 - 1 sec @ the beginning of the year, @ the end they will be equal.
R4 will be ~ 0,5 sec quicker (without knowing the final tech.regs).

[AMSS]

WRC 1,6t will be 0,5 - 1 sec @ the beginning of the year, @ the end they will be equal.
R4 will be ~ 0,5 sec quicker (without knowing the final tech.regs).

Based on test reports(not 100% reliable but anyway) with comparison between current wrc and 1,6 than on snow and gravel 0,1-0,3s/k FASTER and on tarmac 0,2-0,5s slower.........

[cali]

Based on test reports(not 100% reliable but anyway) with comparison between current wrc and 1,6 than on snow and gravel 0,1-0,3s/k FASTER and on tarmac 0,2-0,5s slower.........

Wowww, I did not want to be too positive about my predictions, but if this is true, then I'm more keen on seeing these little beasts in Sweden.

[JFL]

Henning Solberg told me after his test in the Fiesta WRC(early test) that it was not much different from the 07/08 spec Focus he was driving.. But it was more nervous and fun to drive...