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    And yet this year we've seen Red Bull and McLaren soundly beating the 'works' teams with the same engines.
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    In 2010:

    RBR - Privateer/Independant
    Ferrari - Factory (Works)/Manufacturer
    McLaren - Privateer/Independant
    Mercedes - Factory (Works)/Manufacturer
    Renault - Factory (Works)/Manufacturer
    Williams - Privateer/Independant
    Force India - Privateer/Independant
    Sauber - Privateer/Independant
    STR - Privateer/Independant
    Lotus Racing - Privateer/Independant
    Virgin - Privateer/Independant
    HRT - Privateer/Independant

    Changes in 2011:

    Lotus Renault GP - Factory (Works)/Independant
    Team Lotus and Marussia Virgin are still Privateer/Independant. Renault as a team are now just an engine manufacturer.

    Future changes:
    McLaren - Factory (Works)/Manufacturer (once they start making their own engines)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Drifter
    Bernie never drove F1. I do not think he got beyond the 500cc F3 class and certainly not beyond F2. Mosely drove in F2 but with little success. Neither ere worth much as drivers.
    I thought he drove in a meeting (68?) but didn't qualify for the race. He didn't actually start a race but did drive a f1 car at a meeting.

    Does that count? Does it matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronRooster92
    Red Bull design their own car, so surely they are a factory team?
    Perhaps the original meaning of "factory" existed to distinguish 'works' cars from 'customer' cars. Factory & works obviously relating to where the cars were made.

    Rob Walker purchased a Lotus 18 and went racing with Stirling Moss. His was very much a customer/privateer entry when compared with the works/factory Lotus team.

    Both Red Bull and Honda might have been seen as factory teams when they were supplying Toro Rosso and Super Aguri with cars.
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    I guess there are four types of entrant;

    Privateer
    Independant
    Manufacturer
    Factory

    What say?
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