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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyvop
    Practice is just that....Practice. With limited testing it is one of the only times they can try new things. Leave it alone.

    Right now the grids are not big enough for there to be a need for pre-qualifying. If the grid grows then perhaps it will be needed.

    How about this?
    For Road course: Have a 20 min pre-qualifying session immediately after final practice for any driver who didn't make the 107% the race before?

    For Ovals the time that each cars spends qualifying is so short that there is no need for pre-qualifying.
    I basically agree, just that when we say 107 what do we mean. I looked at it as an either or meaning you make it in practice or in Qualifying.

    Since only 1 person was failing the pre-qualifying i liked the idea that if you qualified at the last RC you can attempt to qualify at the next.

    107 to me is a Road Course number, if you are 7 pct off on an Oval you have real problems.

    The deal is, when you say 107% you have a lot of defining to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty G.
    Yes, I remember those Sonny's cars from a few years ago.

    Of course, it was Mario Moraes's family check, who was funding that car. Not Dale. And because Tony George gave him free chassis and free engine leases, it was a nice, easy year of collecting for DCR.
    I seem to remember Junqueira driving the Sonny's car longer than Moraes (I could be wrong), and Bruno isn't someone I associate with $$$.

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    I've never heard anyone complaining about Penske scrawled down the side of Roger's cars all those years, or the Forsythe Cars with INDECK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scotty G.
    Conquest and Coyne still get Indy Car welfare, for 2 of their entries.

    Maybe some of these teams need to actually get serious and not just employ hacks like Duno and Dracone.

    Dale's been at it a long, long time. Time to get serious, man.
    "Welfare"! Was that a deliberate choice of words. Like something you disagree with on a personal level.

    I for one would prefer to see DCR, Conquest, DR and SF get all the money. Penske does not need these sponsors. If he lived to a 100 he would still be a millionaire. No discredit to Roger as he has earned his money. The same for KK and CG, oh, and smiley face Michael. Let them absorb the cost.

    Pather gets 10 million from the National Guard. How that is rationalized is beyond me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris R
    And without Coyne, we had on less thing to talk about, one less incubator for new talent (despite Duno, he has brought some decent drivers to the series), 2 less cars in the field, and countless other things he brings to the table....

    He is the classic underdog - which is something Americans love - perhaps even more than American drivers.... He is also a smart businessman - he has been able to keep his team going for many years despite a lack of success and it appears as though he has actually made a living doing it... How many folks have gone broke trying to be the next Roger Penske or Chip Ganassi???

    I am no fan of Duno and no fan of ride buyers who have no business in an Indycar - but Dale is ok in my book (and so are many of the so-called "ride buyers" who are talented enough to merit a chance even if they are not the next Mario Andretti - they make the racing world spin 'round)......

    Well said!!!
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    Agreed with glauistean, that's excellent perspective Chris.

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    I am of the opinion that Coyne is a lot of what Scott said, but still it wouldn't be the same if he wasn't there.

    Lets face it, a 28 car field has a much more enticing feel than a 20 car field. As long as the series starts making it harder to get a seat license wise, I have no issue with ride buying. Ok...belay that, I have an issue in that I don't like it, but I know why it happens. AS long however the people getting behind the wheel can qualify and be competitive when the green stops to an extent, then that is ok.

    Coyne will survive, he always managed when he was racing an old chassis with a stock block and HE was the driver (89?) . Conquest on the other hand....well they may find it tough...
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