Volkswagen interested in Ferrari

[Rollo]

Then tell me this? Why is FGA investing little or nothing into the Alfa Romeo brand? Where's the Mito GTA? Where's the Giulietta GTA? Where's the 159 replacement? Where's the 166 replacement? Where's the replacement for the Brera and the Spider which have stopped producton this year?

http://www.fiatgroup.com/en-us/shai/...ay_forward.pdf
The 159 Replacement is tentatively called the Alfa Romeo Giulia, due 2012. The new Spider is due in 2013.

The 166 Replacement was to be the 169, but it may or may not be produced at all:
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...1-ar15872.html

The Mito GTA exists as a concept car thus far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWegxPJO7qE
We saw this at the Sydney Motor Show this year. They may or may not make it at all depending on the full implications of the EURO V emissions scheme. EURO V is the reason why the Honda Civic Type-R was killed off.

[D28]

Can anyone say for sure that the public offering of Ferrari shares was made. From my previous post, does the Agnelli holding company still own enough of Ferrari to controll the comapany, no matter how many shares are purchased?
Ferarri's son must still have a small piece of the company.

If this is so I take Marcionne's words as given, Ferrari is not for sale, period.

[nigelred5]

I agree, I've never read that Ferrari was outright "For Sale", but depending on the IPO, that could be enough to surrender controlling interest.

[Rollo]

As far as I was aware, FIAT bought 50% + 1 of the shares of Ferrari when Enzo sold them in the late 60's and then paid almost €750m for another 30% in 2006.
If Piero Ferrari owns 10%, then that in theory would leave about 10% of the SpA still unaccounted for.

[Giuseppe F1]

As far as I was aware, FIAT bought 50% + 1 of the shares of Ferrari when Enzo sold them in the late 60's and then paid almost €750m for another 30% in 2006.
If Piero Ferrari owns 10%, then that in theory would leave about 10% of the SpA still unaccounted for.

As for the remaining 10%, Mubadala Abu Dhabi purchased a 5% stake in Ferrari back in 2005. However, they are currently negotiating to sell their stake back to FIAT interestingly:

Heres the links from last week from a few reputable sources:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-1...tner-fiat.html

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fc52bc74-e...#axzz163nWaLiv

[Giuseppe F1]

So FIAT now own 90% and Piero Ferrari the remaining 10%.

[mstillhere]

Ever heard about the Bugatti Veyron?
What about the Lamborghini Diablo, or Murcielago, or Gallardo?
Or what about the VW Nardo that holds seven 24-hour world speed records?!

You see they made their own, several of them!

I find it funny how people know diddly squat about VW yet revel about FIAT owning Ferrari!

Being owned by VW would be the best thing that happened to Ferrari for a long time.

I love to see how many times you give yourself so many compliments. If nobody does it, I guess "someone" has to, right?

If VW have so many "successfull" brands, why do they need the ONE? Because they can't have it? Well..well.well.They better get used. FIAT has no reason to sell it. Obviously the reason I refer to has nothing to do with the commercial aspect of the company. You know....it's an Italian thing.

Nobody can have Ferrari. It's the only and unique and it will be such as long as in remains in Italian hands. It's like the tower of Pisa or Venice. They all are unique. You can have as many replicas as you want but they will never be the same. I don't even know if VW would be able to keep the Ferrari clientele. They might just get rid of their Ferraris and get a Passat instead ah,ah,ah,ah,ah......

I don't even know why you guys are having this conversation. No ONE of the FIAT big wigs has sent ONE message to VW that it might happen. Have fun though. There is no harm in talking about it.

[Daniel]

http://www.fiatgroup.com/en-us/shai/...ay_forward.pdf
The 159 Replacement is tentatively called the Alfa Romeo Giulia, due 2012. The new Spider is due in 2013.

The 166 Replacement was to be the 169, but it may or may not be produced at all:
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-new...1-ar15872.html

The Mito GTA exists as a concept car thus far:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWegxPJO7qE
We saw this at the Sydney Motor Show this year. They may or may not make it at all depending on the full implications of the EURO V emissions scheme. EURO V is the reason why the Honda Civic Type-R was killed off.

Everything is off in the future with Alfa...... just like the sale of Alfa Romeo....

[mstillhere]

Then tell me this? Why is FGA investing little or nothing into the Alfa Romeo brand? Where's the Mito GTA? Where's the Giulietta GTA? Where's the 159 replacement? Where's the 166 replacement? Where's the replacement for the Brera and the Spider which have stopped producton this year?

This sounds very much like what people do when they're going to sell off a car, but Marchionne is doing it with a whole brand. Why spend money on developing products for a brand that is going to be sold off?

In my post I actually was saying why VW don't build their own FERRARI. I was not talking about A. Romeo.

If you want to talk about A. Romeo I only would like to say that it's not my place nor my university major to talk about car manufacturing, production, updates, etc. since it's not my field of expertise. I'll leave that to the pro and so should anyone else who is not a pro in these fields. What I know is that A. R. has been there since I was born, and it's still there.

Fiat now has an unique opportunity with the U.S. market to become a major world player. It was an excellent move at a bargain price. The A.R. brand has a huge number of fans here in the U.S. who only can't wait to get themselves a brand new A.R.

Obviously this golden opportunity is only to be wasted by the Fiat manegement group. At this time however Marchionne has been a very good strategist. If they are going to be successful or not only time will tell. And I don't see what would be the harm in wishing Fiat good luck in their new venture. After all Fiat has definetly made history in the car world if not more at least as much as VW.

[ioan]

Nobody can have Ferrari. It's the only and unique and it will be such as long as in remains in Italian hands.

Let's wait and see before using big words.