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15th November 2010, 20:50 #21
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Originally Posted by henners88
But both are on record as stating that Bernoldi should not have raced coulthard at Monaco in 2001 because Enrique was not fighting for the championship.
This abhorrent and stupid idea recieved very little criticism at the time, despite being entirely contrary to the professed "we are racers" claim of the two people voicing this idea.
Yet when Fernando shows understandable frustration he recieves the bile and hatred of the very people I suspect hold both Mr Dennis and Mr Stewart in high regard.
A little strange, I think.Il diavolo era il 1° luglio 1947 nato.
Forza Ferrari
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15th November 2010, 21:22 #22
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Petrov had every right to fight for his position and he drove very well, but lets be honest, he didnt really need to do much to avoid being overtaken other than not make a mistake, Hulkenberg the week before gave a much better display of actual defensive driving.
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16th November 2010, 11:44 #23Originally Posted by pallone col bracciale
We've seen certain drivers in the past sometimes scare the wits out of a driver by their very presence behind him... Senna and Schumacher come to mind. But Alonso didn't/couldn't cause Petrov to lose his nerve, and as you yourself said, he made no mistakes. So...
I admit that I enjoyed Petrov's performance even more because I strongly dislike Alonso. But no matter who it was, I don't think a driver (ANY driver) on the lead lap should be expected to yield his position just because the person following him needs points for the WDC - quasi team orders aside."Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith
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16th November 2010, 13:00 #24
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
And even though I really wanted Hamilton to win the race - and therefore have the ghost of a chance at the title - I couldn't help but be impressed with Kubica for making it impossible to pass, even though Lewis had a few tries and Robert was on decaying rubber.Useful F1 Twitter thingy: http://goo.gl/6PO1u
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16th November 2010, 13:27 #25
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I agree with Henners that it wasn't Alonso's finest moment, but as I've said elsewhere I think it equates with Hamilton's claim that Massa had tried to drive him off the track when it was clear that that was not the case. I'm not trying to excuse anyone by saying that, just to contrast the reaction.
Another thing I think those two incidents have in common is that while both Alonso and Hamilton might recognise the other driver did nothing wrong (well, Alonso did anyway), they would probably both still claim that the force used was excessive. Whether you agree with that or not, I don't think The Spanish Inquisition is necessary here.
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16th November 2010, 14:09 #26
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Bottom line: I think Petrov BLUFFED alonso.
If alonso had really gone for it, Petrov would have let him pass.
I thought so during the race, and then later petrov pretty much said so, that he would not have permitted contact.
after all, remember what happenned the last time someone had contact with another contender for the WDC in the last race of the season???? JV/MS???
what was the punishment??
Alonso may have his 6/10th, but the gonads??????..not even on the last couple of laps did he even try a shot......hummmOnly the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:
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16th November 2010, 14:19 #27
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Originally Posted by thunderbolt
Nonstory." Lady - I'm in an awful dilemma.
Moe - Yeah, I never cared much for these foreign cars either."
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16th November 2010, 15:34 #28
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Originally Posted by fandango
In Qualifying, Lewis was off the racing line but approaching a corner. Massa came on the outside on the racing line and just ignored Lewis who had to avoid the Ferrari by going off track and crash into a bollard.
If Massa wanted to overtake to get track position for his flying lap, he could have had the manners to just overtake Lewis and not make him drive off track. Bit rude wasn't it?
Where that compares to two drivers in a race for position is beyond me. Petrov and Alonso were racing and neiter Petrov made a mistake or Alonso hadn't the talent to swap the positions.
What point are you tring to make? Alonso should have deliberatly punted Petrov off the track or Massa should have driven around Hamilton?
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