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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    Seeing shades of grey, rather than black and white, seems not to be popular on the American right at present.

    That is because there is no Gray.

    If you see Gray that just means you are not fully informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyvop
    That is because there is no Gray.

    If you see Gray that just means you are not fully informed.
    Actually it's the other way around. If you only see black or white, you see just one side of the story, usually from your own point of view. So you are either not fully informed or you ignore the things that favor the opposite side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    My low opinion of Kennedy stems largely from the fact he was in no way the man he was/is made out to be, or made himself out to be.
    Arguably the greatest trick Kennedy pulled off was to convince the public he was against Vietnam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyvop
    That is because there is no Gray.

    If you see Gray that just means you are not fully informed.
    Oh dear oh dear oh dear.

    Oh, and there's no need for a capital letter on 'gray'/'grey' in this case. I hope you appreciate my occasional advice on grammar and spelling. It's all in the interests of the professionalism of your website journalism, you understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyvop
    That is because there is no Gray.

    If you see Gray that just means you are not fully informed.
    Indeed. I see a lot of grey. I don't know the whole story, and I don't believe you do either. Anyone who claims to is usually wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonyvop
    That is because there is no Gray.

    If you see Gray that just means you are not fully informed.
    A quite serious question — have you ever been wrong, in your eyes, on any issue at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    A quite serious question — have you ever been wrong, in your eyes, on any issue at all?
    I have.
    And I have learned from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eki
    Actually it's the other way around. If you only see black or white, you see just one side of the story, usually from your own point of view. So you are either not fully informed or you ignore the things that favor the opposite side.

    Wow. That was a ridiculous statement even by your standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eki
    Actually it's the other way around. If you only see black or white, you see just one side of the story, usually from your own point of view. So you are either not fully informed or you ignore the things that favor the opposite side.
    Grey is a shade of black so one only sees one side or the other at any time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
    Grey is a shade of black so one only sees one side or the other at any time.

    There are no shades of black. Black contains no colour, whereas white contains all colours, so would it not be more accurate to say grey is a shade of white.

    (This is all getting very abstract and theoretical, but I'll have a go for the laugh)

    Anyway, before we get all yin and yang, how can you say "one only sees one side or the other"? Does that not make all debate and discussion pointless?

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