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    Quote Originally Posted by tc10a View Post
    What i found is that Hermann Neubauer as well as Gerwald Groessing both already gave statements in Newspapers that they want to drive a 1.6 WRC if they are allowed. Maybe some "Gentleman Drivers" with big wallet also take the step to have some fun. Also it looks like 2.0l WRCs will be allowed as well as several other previously banned classes in future like GT Porsche. Generally open the Championship should be a good Thing.
    It's good thing for spectators but it's definitely wrong thing from sporting point of view. You can never make competition better by abandoning equal rules for everybody and go for a set of rules where each driver on top of the leaderboad may use car built and run according to different regulations. Baumschlager is an old man and if younger guys are not able to defeat him in a straight fight using cars under same regulations than it says quite a lot about them and their skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    It's good thing for spectators but it's definitely wrong thing from sporting point of view. You can never make competition better by abandoning equal rules for everybody and go for a set of rules where each driver on top of the leaderboad may use car built and run according to different regulations. Baumschlager is an old man and if younger guys are not able to defeat him in a straight fight using cars under same regulations than it says quite a lot about them and their skills.
    Until now there is no final announcement of the regulations 2016. Best is to wait and see what is officially announced at the end of october / beginning of november. With no Jänner Rallye in 2016, the winter break is 2.5 months longer until first round at Rebenland Rallye (March 18th - 19th).

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    You will see what it brings. As You may know we have here in CZ old WRC cars allowed. It definitely made the events nicer for spectators but on the other hand I think that it brought on top a lot of rich gentleman drivers while there is nobody young and promising using WRC car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    It's good thing for spectators but it's definitely wrong thing from sporting point of view. You can never make competition better by abandoning equal rules for everybody and go for a set of rules where each driver on top of the leaderboad may use car built and run according to different regulations. Baumschlager is an old man and if younger guys are not able to defeat him in a straight fight using cars under same regulations than it says quite a lot about them and their skills.
    It´s not (only) about skills, it´s more about economy and budget in my opinion. Baumschlager was the only driver, who has been able to build a business around rallying, and even this was a work of years. So now he´s the only one who can afford a structure similar to a works team, with big potent sponsors like Skoda Austria, Red Bull and Remus behind him.

    Except for Grössing, I don´t think anyone could afford a WRC-car in Austria. Even Neubauer has to deal with an old Fiesta S2000, who is already rather prone to technical failures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WUff1 View Post
    It´s not (only) about skills, it´s more about economy and budget in my opinion. Baumschlager was the only driver, who has been able to build a business around rallying, and even this was a work of years. So now he´s the only one who can afford a structure similar to a works team, with big potent sponsors like Skoda Austria, Red Bull and Remus behind him.
    Can't see how admitting cars twice more expensive than R5 can solve that.

    Quote Originally Posted by WUff1 View Post
    Except for Grössing, I don´t think anyone could afford a WRC-car in Austria. Even Neubauer has to deal with an old Fiesta S2000, who is already rather prone to technical failures.
    When I saw Neubauer's car during Barum I was thinking that it really didn't look well. It looked worn and used a lot. You could see they had lack of money on other things too. For example the box for spare parts was all rusty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ucci View Post
    Congrats to both 911 drivers, Vallejo as a winner and of course, Fuster, who is a national champion. Porsche all the way......
    So, R5 drivers still need some ''meat'' to eat.....
    pitty that you cant understant the obvious.

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    After Jänner Rallye also Waldviertel Rallye, Austria´s other big rally, part of ERT, seems in jeopardy. Organizer Helmut Schöpf wrote in an Austrian rally forum, that he didn´t register Waldviertel Rallye 2016 neither at FIA nor at Austrian motorsport organization OSK.

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    Shit...
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    Gallery Herbst Rallye Dobersberg 2015:
    http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_best...berg_2015.html


    Final results:
    01. Sonnleitner / Foissner, Mitsubishi Evo IX 29:53:5
    02. Schuberth-Mrlik / Welsersheimb, Subaru Impreza +2.6
    03. Koch / Brunthaler, Skoda Fabia S2000 +10.3
    04. Rigler / Rossgatterer, Peugeot 207 S2000 +16.6
    05. Wagner / Aigner, Mitsubishi Evo VII +20.2
    06. Zellhofer / Heigl, Ford Fiesta S2000 +32.4
    07. Mühlberger / Thaller, Mitsubishi Evo VI +1:22.6
    08. Feuchtner / Hechinger, Mitsubishi Evo VI +2:00.5
    09. Kogler / Winter, Citroen DS3 R3T +2:13.3
    10. Wagner / Wögerer, Mitsubishi Evo III +2:14.8

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    Austrian rally calendar 2016, definitely without Waldviertel Rallye. So both international Austrian rallies are gone:

    https://docs.google.com/viewerng/vie...llye.pdf&hl=en

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