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5th February 2011, 14:22 #11
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Originally Posted by Don Capps
I started this project in the middle of last season after a particularly heated discussion about the inadaquacies of the Latford system, and how it exacerbates the the "gimmiky" nature of the Chase. Part of this argument was caused by the other little project that I had going on, scoring the top 3 National series using the new FIA points system during the 2010 season.
Actually, it was a lot of fun, at least for me.
The fact that the were only 2 different championship scenarios during the Chase era (which stayed the same even after 2010's great season) absolutely floored me, especialy when one considers fully half of the chase seasons would have turned out differently had the full season Latford points been used.#4 2014 Sprint Cup Champion, 2007 Daytona 500,2003 Brickyard 400,2x Coke 600,2014 Southern 500 Champ: 962 starts,90 wins, 345 T5s, 544 T10s, 44 poles, 2x NNS champ
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5th February 2011, 16:22 #12
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Originally Posted by Don Capps
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5th February 2011, 16:30 #13
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Originally Posted by beachgirl#4 2014 Sprint Cup Champion, 2007 Daytona 500,2003 Brickyard 400,2x Coke 600,2014 Southern 500 Champ: 962 starts,90 wins, 345 T5s, 544 T10s, 44 poles, 2x NNS champ
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10th February 2011, 14:42 #14
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Pretty cool stuff - thanks for doing the work - while it is all academic - it does provide some interesting insight....
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10th February 2011, 15:13 #15
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My bet is on Kurt Busch being the "undeserving" one - how did he pull off that championship when Johnson's stats were so strong??
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10th February 2011, 23:04 #16
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Originally Posted by Chris R#4 2014 Sprint Cup Champion, 2007 Daytona 500,2003 Brickyard 400,2x Coke 600,2014 Southern 500 Champ: 962 starts,90 wins, 345 T5s, 544 T10s, 44 poles, 2x NNS champ
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15th February 2011, 15:54 #17
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All the standings are posted now,, as you can see. As time permits I will do follow on posts in each thread from 1990 to present to do the statistical analysis that I had done in previous years, but at least you can see who was where in the top 15 in each year. I do have every driver who scored points scored on a grid sheet, but I only "placed" the top 15 in a standings order to save myself some time. If you are wondering where how many points your driver scored in a given year and he isn't in the standings, feel free to ask, I do have the info. I may not beable to tell you for sure he was in p23, lets say, but I can tell you how many points he had.
#4 2014 Sprint Cup Champion, 2007 Daytona 500,2003 Brickyard 400,2x Coke 600,2014 Southern 500 Champ: 962 starts,90 wins, 345 T5s, 544 T10s, 44 poles, 2x NNS champ
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15th February 2011, 16:27 #18
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Champions List
Here is the champions list based on using the the FIA system from 1975 on. All champions prior to 1975 are listed using whatever system they were using in real life:
Code:001 Richard Petty...............07 (1964,1967,1971,1972,1974,1975,1979) t02 Dale Earnhardt..............05 (1986,1987,1990,1991,1994) t02 Jeff Gordon.................05 (1995,1996,1997,1998,2001) t02 Jimmie Johnson..............05 (2004,2006,2007,2009,2010) 005 Cale Yarborough.............04 (1976,1977,1978,1980) t06 Lee Petty...................03 (1954,1958,1959) t06 David Pearson...............03 (1966,1968,1969) t06 Darrell Waltrip.............03 (1981,1982,1983) t06 Rusty Wallace...............03 (1988,1989,1993) t10 Buck Baker..................02 (1956,1957) t10 Tim Flock...................02 (1952,1955) t10 Ned Jarrett.................02 (1961,1965) t10 Herb Thomas.................02 (1951,1959) t10 Joe Weatherly...............02 (1962,1963) t10 Bill Elliott................02 (1985,1992) t10 Tony Stewart................02 (2002,2005) t10 Carl Edwards................02 (2008,2011) t17 Red Byron...................01 (1949) t17 Bobby Isaac.................01 (1970) t17 Benny Parsons...............01 (1973) t17 Bill Rexford................01 (1950) t17 Rex White...................01 (1960) t17 Terry Labonte...............01 (1984) t17 Dale Jarrett................01 (1999) t17 Bobby Labonte...............01 (2000) t17 Ryan Newman.................01 (2003)
#4 2014 Sprint Cup Champion, 2007 Daytona 500,2003 Brickyard 400,2x Coke 600,2014 Southern 500 Champ: 962 starts,90 wins, 345 T5s, 544 T10s, 44 poles, 2x NNS champ
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17th February 2011, 16:56 #19
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"Chase Champions" from 1975-2003
I had forgotten about this as it had been done so long ago, but Jayski had done some hard work back when the Chase was first anounced extending the chase back to 1975 which just happens to coincide with my "FIA Cup" chart. His work can be found here:
Jayski'sŪ NASCAR Silly Season Site - The Chase for the Sprint Cup 2010
What that had allowed me to do is go back and re-update my chart and I have been able to piece together some pretty interesting info.
Seasons with "Triple Crown Winners": 17 (1975-1979,1981,1982,1986,1987,1989,1990,1994,1998,2000, 2005,2006,2009)
Seasons where the Winston Cup and FIA Cup agree, but Sprint Cup different: 9 (1984,1991,1995,1997,1999,2001,2002,2008,2011)
Seasons where Winston Cup and Sprint Cup agree but FIA Cup different: 2 (1985,1988)
Seasons where Sprint Cup and FIA Cup Agree, but Winston Cup different: 6 (1980,1983,1993,1996,2007,2010)
Seasons with 3 different Champions: 3 (1992,2003,2004)
Triple Crown Winners:
Code:001 Dale Earnhardt..........04 (1986,1987,1990,1994) 002 Cale Yarborough.........03 (1976-1978) t03 Richard Petty...........02 (1975,1979) t03 Darrell Waltrip.........02 (1981,1982) t03 Jimmie Johnson..........02 (2006,2009) t06 Rusty Wallace...........01 (1989) t06 Jeff Gordon.............01 (1998) t06 Bobby Labonte...........01 (2000) t06 Tony Stewart............01 (2005)
#4 2014 Sprint Cup Champion, 2007 Daytona 500,2003 Brickyard 400,2x Coke 600,2014 Southern 500 Champ: 962 starts,90 wins, 345 T5s, 544 T10s, 44 poles, 2x NNS champ
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26th December 2011, 18:28 #20
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2011 Updates
Originally Posted by slorydn1
I also edited the following post about the triple crown winners, again with bold type.#4 2014 Sprint Cup Champion, 2007 Daytona 500,2003 Brickyard 400,2x Coke 600,2014 Southern 500 Champ: 962 starts,90 wins, 345 T5s, 544 T10s, 44 poles, 2x NNS champ
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