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    Quote Originally Posted by gił tutto! View Post
    Really...I have always thought that FFSA was the main factor behind Ogier...?
    V&V involved post-Citroen days is my understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gił tutto! View Post
    Really...I have always thought that FFSA was the main factor behind Ogier...?
    Yes, but V&V were his managers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    http://www.mtv.fi/sport/ralli

    5 new story from Tommi/Toyota (in finnish only)
    and Mikko“s answer: http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9025211

    "I have not talked with Tommi"

    I believe they (Toyota people) are playing with media.
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    the finnish media... nobody else cares how will this village team flop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    and Mikko“s answer: http://yle.fi/urheilu/3-9025211

    "I have not talked with Tommi"

    I believe they (Toyota people) are playing with media.
    Agree. There's just no chance Mikko hasn't talked with Tommi/Jarmo. We've seen him at Gazoo junior driver tests.

    I'm sure in one of the other Finnish articles Tommi said Mikko didn't have the desire to return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    He was almost beaten by Emil Bergkvist in a group N Mitsubishi (while driving a Skoda Fabia wrc). I don't think so...
    Well, I“ve checked. Emil is very fast, maybe even faster than PG in equal cars, though I doubt he is at this time in EB“s career. In SSR PG was 0,5 - 1 sec/km faster than Emil.
    PG in WRC Skoda - Emil in Evo IX. Hard to make judgement, Småland has not so fast stages.

    However - Emil is the future. And PG (sorry) is history. Maybe could help Tommi a couple of years, but still ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    the finnish media... nobody else cares how will this village team flop.
    But you do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    But you do
    of course i am, are you crazy ? last time i was that happy about a flop was when Makinen was getting beaten senseless like a Dog without an owner by Solberg who exposed what an overrated amateur he was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    Yes, but V&V were his managers.
    And what V&V did for Ogier? He was already at the top level and backed by FFSA, so the hang around crew just wanted to get part of his money. Ogier was quite fed up for that and said at least once that it looks like manager needs him more than he needs the manager.
    I'm afraid that contract with these "managers" can be the last nail for Bergkvist career. In this business there are many kind of managers. Unfortunately all of them are not professionals. It is possible to ride with a name of champion for a while, but at the service park people know the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    http://www.mtv.fi/sport/ralli

    5 new story from Tommi/Toyota (in finnish only)
    Any translation please ? I can't get the explanation about Zotos with Google translation
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