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    http://www.radiotimes.com/tv-program...episode-guide/

    Not sure if this is the correct video or an old video, but either way it says episode 120 is about that return of Toyota to WRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Not really. TMG started developing a Yaris WRC during 2013. The first proto hit the road in 2014 but the car and the WRC program were only officially presented by Mr. Toyoda (aka Morizo) in Japan, during Toyotas 2015 motorsport activities presentation. It was then told that Toyota would be back to WRC in 2017, via TMG. Surprisingly, Toyota announced in early July that Makinen was taking control of the WRC project. Till the end of 15, while Makinen was assembling the new team, TMG continue testing their Yaris with Sarrazin, Lindholm, Camilli and Suninen as test drivers. It wasnt clear what role TMG would have, as Makinen announced that his structure was developing a different car. During 16 we get to know that TMG was still implicated in the project as engine supplier, but this year some (unconfirmed) news mentioned Makinen was trying to get a replacement for the German made engines.

    These are all known facts (previously mentioned in this thread), but the reason why Mr. Toyoda replaced TMG by Makinen Team never come out to public. We can only speculate that he got really pissed with TMG humiliating result at Le Mans '15 and stopped believing they could deliver a winning WRC car. Anyway, it would be nice to know what this documentary says about it.

    Btw, most of TMG Yaris videos were removed from their YouTube channel but some official videos are still available:
    https://youtu.be/o3ZW1m4z-FA
    https://youtu.be/QY8A4m0g5aw
    The same about official news:
    http://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/en/deta...7b3vA.facebook
    http://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/en/detail/8622687/
    Thank you so much......If Makinen doesn't go through TMG for the engines, where might he go? How does Toyota stay involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    Does the doc say why Mr. Toyoda changed his mind in July 2015, taking the WRC program from TMG and giving it to Makinen?
    No. It's a 'feel good' promotion of Team TMR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revman View Post
    Thank you so much......If Makinen doesn't go through TMG for the engines, where might he go? How does Toyota stay involved?
    By writing cheques.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racerx1979 View Post
    http://www.radiotimes.com/tv-program...episode-guide/

    Not sure if this is the correct video or an old video, but either way it says episode 120 is about that return of Toyota to WRC
    Yes that sounds like it is the documentary I saw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revman View Post
    Thank you so much......If Makinen doesn't go through TMG for the engines, where might he go? How does Toyota stay involved?
    Ilmor is building their engines.
    and TMG is still helping/supplying somethings to TMR/TGR
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    Ilmor is doing engine software. Engines are still built by TMG. See below quote from Makinen himself.

    Engine work for the Yaris is completed by TMG in Cologne, but Makinen admitted Ilmor had begun to supply some software solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan View Post
    Yes that sounds like it is the documentary I saw
    Ahh great. Hopefully it will be available online soon.

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    TGR has built 12 WRC so far.
    -8 for rallying
    -4 test cars
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