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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    They use BOS, correct. (unless they have changed since last I heard). Weird decision but I'm sure they had their reasons.
    Maybe the reason is that he used BOS dampers for the group N Subarus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    Maybe the reason is that he used BOS dampers for the group N Subarus.
    That's a really stupid reason if you are spearheading the WRC campaign of one the world's largest manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    That's a really stupid reason if you are spearheading the WRC campaign of one the world's largest manufacturer.
    Citroën also used BOS derived dampers on the DS3 and C4 I think. Maybe Toyota thought that was a good enough portfolio?

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    Didn't Citroën use dampers from XTC?

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    Those are on R5, aren't they? I have always thought they used their own dampers based on BOS design, at least with C4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    That's a really stupid reason if you are spearheading the WRC campaign of one the world's largest manufacturer.
    Stupid with a tight schedule to work with a familiar company & people?

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    I interpret that Citroen has three different kind of damper solutions. The R3 with BOS dampers, R5 with dampers developed by Citroen and the WRC with dampers designed and built by Citroen.

    R3:
    http://www.citroenracing.com/en/clie...itroen-ds3-r3/

    R5:
    http://www.citroenracing.com/en/clie...tition/ds3-r5/

    “Very similar to a WRC, in terms of both handling and performance, the DS 3 R5 is equipped with dampers specifically developed by Citroën Racing.”

    WRC:
    http://www.citroenracing.com/en/citroen-ds3-wrc/

    “The three-way adjustable shock absorbers (low- and high-speed compression and rebound) have been designed and built by Citroën Racing.”
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    Toyota Gazoo driver Hiroki Arai was making his own pace notes for first time during Rally Estonia
    Source this article about his codriver Glenn Macneall http://www.rallyaustralia.com.au/mac...-toyota-gazoo/
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldF View Post
    Stupid with a tight schedule to work with a familiar company & people?
    Well I assume that they want to be the best at some point and I am guesstimating now but different dampers must work differently so if you chose one manufacturer you can't just swap in the future and expect the car to react the same.

    If they found out that BOS was a limitation in the future they can't just put Reigers instead and expect them to work.

    That's why I thought that selecting a company because you know them is bit silly.

    Tommi isn't stupid so I hope that's not what he has done.

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    Sometimes it is about which company had the capacity/ resources to supply the rally team.
    http://www.bos-engineering.com/english/produits.html
    I wonder if Ohlins would not have been a preferable choice.

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    As said BOS has been working with Citroën for many years and they kept winning. Sachs has been used by noone before VW brouht them in and they have been winning right from the start. For sure some brands have very good reputation but it doesn't mean the others can't create better product. Let them show what they can do.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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