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14th July 2010, 18:13 #31
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Originally Posted by bblocker68"Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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15th July 2010, 01:11 #32
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Originally Posted by Chris RHINCHTOWN!!
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15th July 2010, 04:09 #33
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Indy Car racing was born and bred in the American midwest.
Indianapolis, Milwaukee, Springfield, DuQuoin, Langhorne, Michigan.
The best ratings for Indy Car racing? Indianapolis, Columbus Ohio, Dayton Ohio.
The majority of Indy Car and Open Wheel racing fans are from the midwest. They were either born there or live there.
Where are the majority of American stock car fans from? The southeast. North Carolina, South Carolina, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia. That is their home.
Where are the majority of American open wheel fans from? Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Iowa, Michigan.
That's just the way it is. Doesn't mean that NASCAR can't branch out and have races in the midwest or the southwest or the northeast. Doesn't mean that Indy Car shouldn't branch out and have races in the southwest, northeast or northwest either.
But these genre's homes, are where they are for a reason. Its called history and heritage.
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15th July 2010, 15:40 #34
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Originally Posted by Scotty G.
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15th July 2010, 18:26 #35
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Indy cars, you bring money, stock-cars you get paid money.
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15th July 2010, 18:29 #36
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15th July 2010, 18:47 #37
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Originally Posted by bblocker68
Oswego is not in the mid-west but is known by many fans here.
Sprint cars are not hurting but neither are they the national news they were even ten years ago.
Open Wheel magazine is gone; WoO is not nearly as big as it once was.
Besides Kinser, how many well known WoO drivers are still driving?
The sprint/modified fan loss to Indy Car racing is a HUGE loss, but at the same time, while sprint/modifieds are doing well, they no longer have the national press they did a decade ago.
Short track racing has problems with govt. asses sticking their noses where they do not belong, but not near the money the millionaire crowd has.
Here a new dirt track opened thirty miless away, but two others closed, this year, one closer and one only thirty miles farther.
The govt. cluster-f--- causing the economy to fizzle is part of the reason, but pathetic little things like not getting a proper permit for a type of building, bathrooms not built properly, lunch counter in wrong place, etc. are the only things that shut one down, although the local govt. closing the track for said infractions caused the track to miss loan payments, so it is closed and for sale.
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15th July 2010, 18:51 #38
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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
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15th July 2010, 19:39 #39
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One problem we have is the insitance people have in calling the IRL "Open Wheel Racing" like it still has anything to do with USAC/Sprint/WoO type racing.
The IRL is Formula Car racing.
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15th July 2010, 21:14 #40
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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe
Oval racing is a uniquely American form of racing. Sprints and Midgets are throwback "retro" style race cars that have evolved not much from those days. Front engine, upright, drive shaft under the driver, big wheel, similar body work, just the addition of safety gear like the cage and scattershields, plus the big tires.
IT has about as much in common with the modern IRL car as a street car does. Aero really isn't used the same way (WoO cars have the huge wings, but that is about the only aero you see in this form of racing) while IRL cars are massaged in the wind tunnel. The ride height, driver's experience and the symetrical as opposed to asymetrical layout in the USAC cars dictate a totally different mindset for driving.
Bob you know this, I know this, but for some, they keep thinking people from the USAC world can just jump and run quick at Indy right away without ever understanding the change in attitude and style of driving."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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