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    I hope its last season for MR. Loeb because then hopefully we have more drivers fighting for a campion title.

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    It's 'cos of him (S.Loeb).. It's 'cos of other drivers not good enough to fight him..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfan+
    I hope its last season for MR. Loeb because then hopefully we have more drivers fighting for a campion title.
    nice mentality.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfan+
    I hope its last season for MR. Loeb because then hopefully we have more drivers fighting for a campion title.
    Just because they can't keep with him dosen't mean he should leave.

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    its the usual loser syndrome....

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T
    its the usual loser syndrome....
    its not often I agree with you, but I do now.

    If Loeb retires as champion it will devalue the achievements of his successor, Loeb isnt to be blamed for the fact that he has been so dominant
    Deep down I'm a sound bloke!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
    Well - I wasn't that surprised by that bit to be honest. I think I remember Quesnel already saying that Kimi has a chance in the manufacturer team next year, if 3 car teams are allowed. Yes Ogier is thier 'project' but Kimi is the one who brings fame and attention to Citroen. Kimi coming 5th would attract more press and interest for Citroen than Ogier winning a title.
    Quesnel first and foremost is about winning. Citroen needs top justify it's investment in rallying - that happens with Ogier, it doesn't happen with Kimi no matter what Red Bull ask for or one tarmac showing suggests.

    WRC gets next to no PR reach anyway, Kimi is a slight bonus but not enough to promote over a more talented driver.
    :champion: WRC3 championship, WRC4 championship, WRC4 PCWRC, WRC4 ERC
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barreis
    Ford needs P.Solberg if they want to be champs again..
    That joke killed me, man! What Ford needs most urgently are two things: more cash and new long-term strategies.

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    There are so many sides of this coin. You mentioned some.

    But - the new Ford might be better than expected meaning it´s even beyond Citroen level or at least equal.

    That brings the thing in another aspect. And the top drivers want to have winning tools. They know for them seleves what is best.

    And then money. Has Ford the money to pay Ogier? Are they willing to do it?

    Loebs supremacy is one other thing. The other drivers are really good but Loebs just happened to be better at the moment. Nothing to cry about. Things just are like that.

    And I agree Ogier at Ford will equal the WRC and next year with new cars will be exciting, no matter what team the drivers happen to be in.
    "Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rallyper
    But - the new Ford might be better than expected meaning it´s even beyond Citroen level or at least equal.
    Thats offcourse true, but for how long? To belive that Citroen is in WRC only to play games, is to fool one self, their aim is to win, and has for sure the resourses to make a car that makes it possible.
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