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Thread: Whats the best option for 2011
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17th June 2010, 17:12 #11
Interesting thread...
In my opinion today it is impossible to come into this sport as a "new" team and expect to win in a short to medium term unless you have serious backers.
FORD and CITROEN have such a huge "know how" about building and running competitive rally cars. A new team would need full manu. back up and enough finances for 3 years in the order of 20 million Euro per year to even think about beating these guys.
After that, you need to get your hands on a proper driver, which seems to be a died out species nowadays, thanks to the FORD pay and drive philosophy.
If you want newcomers to even think about coming in, they need to have a chance.
First thing FIA needs to do is standardise parts that FORD and CITROEN spend millions on in development, ie : GEARBOX, DIFFS, ENGINE, TURBO, CPU, BRAKES, SHOCKS.
Then they have to BAN all exotic materials, ie: Titanium, beryllium, Carbon fibre, Magnesium alloys, etc..
These materials cost fortunes.
The richest teams want to use these as much as possible so as to have such a light car that, they actually add weight in specific areas of the car to make the equilibrium right and lower the center of gravity.
I believe the 03 Focus had a rear differential guard which had a weight of 80 kilos (just the metal part to protect it from stones). They needed two guys to remove it at service.
This is an example of how they managed to have 50/50 weight distribution and it is how they can get cars which have such unbelievable handling.
Small past teams like SUZUKI and SKODA had no chance against this.
just my 2 cents..
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17th June 2010, 17:23 #12
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Originally Posted by Kaffi
If everything is standardised then why not just have one car?Colin Steele McRae ...5 August 1968 - 15 September 2007...
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17th June 2010, 19:46 #13Originally Posted by Macd
Undoubtedly I agree with you that cars should keep their features distinct. The problem here is that we have 2 teams who are lightyears ahead in terms of technology and development, and it just costs too much for anyone to catch up to them.
FORD and CITROEN know that they have this advantage, and they don't want to lose the millions they have put in the technology for their cars.
So I guess unless something drastic happens, the sport is doomed to remain this little circus where only two teams of cars can fight for podium.
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18th June 2010, 19:26 #14Originally Posted by Kaffi
Originally Posted by Kaffi
Originally Posted by Kaffi“Don’t eat the yellow snow” Frank Zappa
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20th June 2010, 00:41 #15
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http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/q...ew_car_delays/
Quesnel is worried that a delay could cause them to miss Rally Sweden. Malcolm Wilson says that he is used to tight schedules. Citroen likes to take their time in developing a car, but this could cause them to mess up. It would be interesting to see Ford being the only make during Rally Sweden.
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20th June 2010, 20:30 #16
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With Citroen delayed:
So how many new cars will we see in Sweden in 13 Feb 2011 ?
Will we see more than manufacturers in Sweden, and how many will we see at the final in GB in November ?
How many 2011 WRCars will we see in total in GB ?
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20th June 2010, 21:22 #17MJWGuest
Hope the FIA dont fall for this trick by Citroen to get the extension for the current cars. Anyone remember that in 2010 we were due to have S2000 with a bodykit, including a Fiat, Proton and VW Sciricco joining wrc. The current two have managed to keep newcomers away quite succesfully.
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20th June 2010, 21:37 #18
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20th June 2010, 21:55 #19
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There are rumours that Toyota are interested in returning with Prodrive. So what happened to BMW-Mini, VW?? Any series with them 2 manufacturers is stronger. So why have they been put off?
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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20th June 2010, 22:28 #20MJWGuestOriginally Posted by AndyRAC
It is nowadays Prokop´s own car or still BRR?
[WRC] Vodafone Rally de Portugal...