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    I wonder if Robin is still celebrating????

    Yes, TG is gone and the league is doing well - we've lost two ovals and gained three twisties; now that is momentum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilf
    Yes, TG is gone and the league is doing well - we've lost two ovals and gained three twisties; now that is momentum.
    I don't think you really read Robin. He has never once said dump ovals. Also, the two you lost, were losing money, and losing fans...and were dull...so if you are going to whine about the loss of ovals, at least show me a decent race on an oval that is being cut, because the harsh reality of it is, Richmond was a snore, and no one was going, and Nashville was papering the house...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
    I don't think you really read Robin. He has never once said dump ovals. Also, the two you lost, were losing money, and losing fans...and were dull...so if you are going to whine about the loss of ovals, at least show me a decent race on an oval that is being cut, because the harsh reality of it is, Richmond was a snore, and no one was going, and Nashville was papering the house...
    Richmond's attendance was growing each year and because the race was a snorfest they changed the aerodynamic rules which resulted in the race of the year at Kentucky. The promoters decided it wasn't a smart decision to pay IndyCar twice what Long Beach had to pay so there goes another oval partner. Kansas and Chicagoland are in limbo which could drop the oval count to six while the twistie count grows to 10. How is that moving to a 50/50 schedule?

    Don't get me wrong, I'm excited that they are visiting Road America, but . . .

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    robin won't be happy until they are running front engine roadsters and he gets to download free porn in the media center.

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    Richmond and Milwaukee were great tracks to go to. I dont see how you can say they werent.

    Losing ovals to be honest with me, sucks. I agree, pretty soon it will be 60% road courses, 40% ovals or even 70% road courses. So they may have to eliminate the oval championship trophy before to long..lol

    The all road/street course series has been done here before, it was called champcar, it failed, so we dont need to go back down that path.

    IndyCar, whether Bernard wants to admit it or not, was founded on ovals and should stay primarily on ovals. I personally am very skeptical of this new CEO, he wants to change everything just for the sake of change. Change isnt always good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanicaFan
    I personally am very skeptical of this new owner, he wants to change everything just for the sake of change. Change isnt always good.
    I wasn't aware that the IRL was sold recently?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chamoo
    I wasn't aware that the IRL was sold recently?
    There, I changed it to CEO, you have to be so critical..
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    sorry but when has Richmond been a good race, Milwaukee yes, but Richmond has to be one of the worst tracks designed for a Indycar. for Nascar is a great track, but the speed and downforce an IRL car has, its all single file nonsense
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    I wasn't and IndyCar fan before the mergification but I enjoyed the 2008 race at Richmond. The drivers had to work hard to negotiate the track and though there weren't quites as many passes as on the 1.5-milers, there were quite a few overtaking manouvres, each of them more meaningful than those on the cookie cutters. The 2009 race was a snorefest, but not more than other races at that time of the year. That said, if the promoter doesn't want an event, there is little the sanctioning body can do.

    The Milwaukee Mile, IMHO, the best suited oval track in the USA for open wheel racecars other than Indy. It provides great racing, it's got more tradition than any other tracks. It is a must to return there. But then again, you can hardly fault the IRL for the failure of the promoters.

    What you can fault them for, is the refusal of the 5-track package offer from SMI that included Kentucky, Texas, Sonoma, Las Vegas and New Hampshire. I'm sure Randy Bernard would have accepted it as there are rumors that he is keen on LVMS and NHMS.
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    Richmond, Milwaukee, Phoenix, Nazareth, Gateway, old, old Homestead...all white knuckle, up on the wheel racing. Blink and you're off the lead lap.

    New Homestead, Kansas, Chicago, Texas. Not my cup of tea. Keep your eye on the fuel gauge.

    One of the worst casualties of the war was the notion that not all ovals are the same. Talk about irony.

    I realize there were not people at those tracks and I know there's no room for them for today's fan, but I resent being told they were boring.

    I remember watching Helio obliterate the field at Gateway with no electronics and this is back when the league had TC. Drove it like he stole it.
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    is not half bad now that I think about it.

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