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19th May 2010, 21:49 #1
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Mosque being built near Ground Zero?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/us_...a/10127563.stm
No thanks! Stirring the emotions of 9/11 victim's families is not fair play.
Unless you want trouble, then build it somewhere else.Marco Simoncelli 1987-2011
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19th May 2010, 23:53 #2
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Can I make a distinction here?
"Muslims" did not cause 9/11 - murderers did.
Although I really hate Islam and a lot of the teachings of the Quran, it doesn't mean that people don't have the right to believe anything they wish.
Furthermore, the 1st Amendment to the US Constitution says that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
Provided the people set up the Mosque within the civil confines of the law, then really no-one can stop them.The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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20th May 2010, 03:30 #3
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20th May 2010, 03:57 #4
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Originally Posted by Rollo
Seems highly inappropriate to build a Mosque where the teachings of the Koran lead to 2750 deaths.
Those "murderers" were Muslim and they committed that act against America because of Islam.Marco Simoncelli 1987-2011
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20th May 2010, 05:20 #5
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The perpretrators were Islamists and yes Muslims.
But the vast majority of Muslims want no part of the fanatical Islamists.
I do agree that building a Mosque there is not very smart though for PR reasons.
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20th May 2010, 05:28 #6
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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
Texas v. Johnson (1989)
"if there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea offensive or disagreeable."
Justice William J. Brennan, Jr.
I understand the concern and the upset. But as I previously posted, I think it's more important to examine the issues of militancy, fanaticism, brainwashing, delusion etc.
I don't particularly like seeing lads mags next to the newspaper at newsstands, but do I have any right to make newsstands remove them? Of course not.
We don't have a human right not to be offended.
On the other side of the street from the Mosque should sit a gay bar, and next door a cartoonist building crowned by a picture of the "prophet' Muhammad...The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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20th May 2010, 06:04 #7
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Originally Posted by anthonyvopI could really use a fish right now
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20th May 2010, 06:06 #8
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Originally Posted by gloomyDAYI could really use a fish right now
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20th May 2010, 09:36 #9Originally Posted by anthonyvopYou're so beige, you probably think this signature is about someone else.
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20th May 2010, 13:06 #10
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Originally Posted by Rollo
We should all be like the "good Germans" in the 1930's, who welcomed the nazis to do whatever they want....there were plenty of SS oficers who never shot one jew, russian and so on, so we should not condemn all nazis, and if they want to build memorials to Hitler right next to concentration camps, "We don't have a human right not to offended"....whatever that means
btw, brennan was an old liberal fool, whose droppings on the american flag and other of his rulings should be dumped, and he lucked out with his 5-4 decisions where the cowardly kennedy would concur
by Brennan's own logic, laws outlawing "hate crimes" are also unconstitutional, because of crimes are a form of political expression...
(okay, now eki can start arguing about how/ why jews are in Isreal, etc..)Only the dead know the end of war. Plato:beer:
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