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Thread: Newey or nothing?
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21st May 2010, 09:58 #11
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Originally Posted by Saint Devote
Obviously, if you take a current car and just lop off the wings it will be rather slow on the corners, but wicked quick on the straights!!!Opinions are like ar5eholes, everyone has one.
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21st May 2010, 10:56 #12
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There is nothing about aero that makes it a requirement for safety. If anything it increases cornering speeds which actually makes the cars less safe!
If you were to reduce downforce to zero, obviously the cars would have to go around the corners much more slowly, so the speed involved if you have an accident is thus much reduced.Please 'like' our facebook page http://www.facebook.com/motorsportforums
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21st May 2010, 11:07 #13
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Originally Posted by Mia 01
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21st May 2010, 12:23 #14
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Originally Posted by fandango
I agree with the bulk of what you're saying though, F1 has boxed itself into this aero-is-all corner with the engine and tyre regs, and the rulemakers have nobody to blame but themselves. They try and blame the economy but that was in fairly rude health when the engines and tyres were neutered in the 2006/07 off-season.
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21st May 2010, 12:33 #15
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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
Now when the engines no longer go booooom, the only thing they need is Adrian and Kimi.
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21st May 2010, 16:16 #16
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Originally Posted by Saint Devote
The concept is very simple:
Downforce can be measured. The loss of downforce that happens to a car in "dirty" air can also be measured. So, let the "brilliant people" design whatever way they want, but with a limit to how much they disturb the air for other cars. The limit is clear, without the necessity for being cleverer than the designers.
As for the development freeze, what I was saying was that perhaps they should make teams choose between freezing their aero development, their engine or their tyres. It would make for more variation in the designs, leading to more passing, different cars being stronger on different circuits. Remember the early 80s? Sometimes the turbos were quicker, sometimes the cosworths. The idea is just speculation....
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21st May 2010, 17:20 #17
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Originally Posted by fandango
When you add tyres into the mix then there's countless examples of un-artificially shaking up the order when there's been a tyre war, Mexico 1986, Phoenix 1990, Barcelona and possibly Hungaroring 1997, the entire 2003 and 2005 seasons (including Indy - hey at least we got an unusual top 6 in that one), and so on.
Yes, if there is to be a freeze then your idea would be infinitely better than what we have now, I just don't like the idea of freezing full-stop, in what is supposed to be a technical competition.
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21st May 2010, 17:55 #18
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Originally Posted by fandango
I can imagine teams spending piles of cash coming up with designs that pass the FIA wind tunnel test, but generate much more turbulence for the following car when the driver is sitting in it, or when the engine's running, or at different speeds to what the FIA test at.
Which is one reason why they invariably fall back on the blunt instrument of legislating on the causes (sizes of wings and diffusers etc.) rather than measuring effects.
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21st May 2010, 20:08 #19
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Originally Posted by AndyL
Yes, but that would be further down the road. There's always a simple way round these things, that's why, for example, they introduced the wooden plank on the bottom of the car.
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21st May 2010, 20:10 #20
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