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    Quote Originally Posted by Finni2
    I don't know if Hänninen, Meeke or P-G could beat Hirvonen with good practise but for sure Hirvonen is miles faster than Kopecky and Gardemaister.
    Of those you mention P-G maybe would be close, after Monte Hänninen admitted that he did not have a chance to match Mikko, Kopecky is an ok driver but not top level, someday with good luck a second driver in some team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
    The stupidity of some people amazes me,

    Mikko Hirvonen almost won the championship last year, and some of you show no respect towards him.

    I cannot beileve that some people think that PG Andersson to be a suitable replacement for him next year.
    Hirvonen 'nearly' won the championship last year

    Really he wasted his only chance to win the drivers championship with the mistakes by Loeb, but he could'nt even do that!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
    The stupidity of some people amazes me,

    Mikko Hirvonen almost won the championship last year, and some of you show no respect towards him.

    I cannot beileve that some people think that PG Andersson to be a suitable replacement for him next year.
    Hirvonen is just so lame. I cant think how he could show something new from him that we havent seen, or to develope more speed as a driver (actually seems to get slower). Never liked his personality either and never will. If he left WRC now, i would be happy to see some interesting driver like pg, petter, ketomaa... well almost anyone looking for a top drive to take his place. Mikko could go to polish his escort to his cottage and bite some average sausage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
    Kopecký and Atkinson better than Hirvonen?

    They may be good world class drivers but they have both never won a WRC round.



    Mikko is way quicker than Jari Ketomaa
    Logical, the Subaru was crap when Atkinson joined it and Kopecký never had a chance in a factory team in the WRC which is a shame. Kopecký really deserves a chance in the WRC and maybe it will happen in the future. If that isn't possible due to the lack of factory teams, IRC is a good alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
    The stupidity of some people amazes me,

    Mikko Hirvonen almost won the championship last year, and some of you show no respect towards him.

    I cannot beileve that some people think that PG Andersson to be a suitable replacement for him next year.
    Last year Hirvonen was very lucky to fight till the last race.......The speed was not there again Hirvonen except NORF.
    I'm not saying he has no place in the team - but he shows what he can do - no more potential - he is on top on his own
    PG and other has potential mab not right from the beginning winning perofrmance but later on they can be better than Hirvonen

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    Quote Originally Posted by JFL
    If you look at this clip.. fast forward to 36:10... I guess you understand norwegian..
    http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/634104/
    Yeah, I understand norweigan very well. But is it any difference from what I said? He might be factorydriver run by Prodrive but paid by Adapta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomi
    A new car can change many things, my guess is that Ford continiues with same drivers, Ketomaa propably will drive a private Ford on the highest level next year, even here in NZ there are none of the absolute top S2000 drivers to compaire him with, so does things look good at the moment.
    I don't consider the likes of Sandell, Tuohino & co. to be the absolute top S2000 drivers so let's wait and see how Ketomaa will do when he comes up against some real competition to see if the hype is justified. Portugal should be more interesting in that respect.

    As for Ford and their current drivers, maybe the story will be different next year when they have the Fiesta. However I think that Mikko and JML are not on the level of Loeb and likely never will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS
    how Ketomaa will do when he comes up against some real competition to see if the hype is justified..
    Do you think that he hasn’t any competition at the moment? IMO he has. What do you mean by not having a real competition?
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    i think the competition he faces is average.....when PG enters its going to be a good indication of his speed and if he is ready to face the big league..

    The fact that he wins over sandel and Pons without too much effort its a good sign. i would like to see his tarmac performance as well though

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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T
    i think the competition he faces is average.....when PG enters its going to be a good indication of his speed and if he is ready to face the big league..

    The fact that he wins over sandel and Pons without too much effort its a good sign. i would like to see his tarmac performance as well though
    Against P-G i think he dont have a chance yet, but the rest he should beat quite easy, and thats good enough sofar.
    Maybe its good to remember that theese guys like Kopecky, Sandell and others has been driving on international level long time already, Ketomaa is just starting.
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