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5th May 2010, 11:59 #11
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Originally Posted by amilk
Internet in the future will be a "key", as it will keep the possibility to spectators all around the world to bring the wrc drama. Think, for example, at South African fans: it's extremely expensive for them to go to NZ or Argentina or Europe to follow a rally. ONline gaming was just a proposal (update your mind ), they're not going forward on it for now.
But let's talk about sponsors. They want massive exposure, ando on the internet too, of course! Brands like Coca Cola (thinking to Mexico Rally), being in a Playstation game it's heavily interesting, because the brand is seen by the child, who can maybe ask 10 minutes later a Coke.
Another example? In Italy, we lost Eurosport coverage (on pay-tv), but we found a FREE-TO-AIR tv who broadcasts the WRC, although we don't have a Manufacturer or a top driver in the series. Is it that worse? Don't think so...
For what about rallies, think at Tour De Corse. Was that event able to host a WRC rally? I was there some years ago, and I have seen a ugly organization. Just a few stages repeated lots of time (12 stages during the weekend), a very small Service Park and bad areas for the Media in the Rally HQ. I'm happy that Tour de Corse was removed from the calendar. Same thing, in my opinion, for Acropolis Rally. There is just the name left 'glorious', but the organisation looks like the Titanic. It's may-day. Going from equestrian centres, to military bases to casinos it's not - IMHO - a good postcard for the rally and for the WRC too. I'd rather like a Turkish or Cyprus event (spectators, mixed surfaces, governments, sponsors, etc.). And Jean Todt, maybe, could understand what I mean, being in F1 until last year.
Let me say another thing to Andy: you thinks ONLY to history and ONLY to the past, but IMO you don't go to certains WRC rallies to see how are they organized.
sry for the long post.
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5th May 2010, 12:05 #12
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Let me add another thing. The Monte left the WRC and signed for Eurosport Events because they complained no freedom for the routes. The FIA now has given the possibility to run the rally in 4 days, with mixed surfaces, in the night, with remote services. Why they're not going back? All pretests are now over.
Simply, Michel Boeri and ACM are quite arrogant. They want to be in charge of all.
It's not the case, thanks God.
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Jean Todt is also a cheater. He decided to remove Abu Dhabi (who voted for him) for Jordan (who voted and announced to public to be in favour of Ari Vatanen). Don't forget that.
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5th May 2010, 12:15 #13
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Originally Posted by Motorsportfun
As far as I know Abu Dhabi has nothing as far as roads for rally go. How that relates to the topic or why you brought it up is anyones guess.
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5th May 2010, 12:19 #14
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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
rotfl that's not a Situation Comedy.
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5th May 2010, 12:30 #15
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North One is the new name for ISC....
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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5th May 2010, 13:55 #16
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Originally Posted by AndyRAC
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5th May 2010, 14:10 #17
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I'm fully agree that we can not live from the past......if a traditional event scrap let's change it. But if ther is a change it must bring improvement. Are you sure Turkey, Jordan was better than Greece. The major broadcast is television and from the television we don't see if there is military area or casino around/behind the race. Just the spectacle which could be there even the event not so strong financially. I agree that if we visit a rally is not egal what is the enviorement around (service park etc). From this point of view look Sweden this year as example- airport without people, poor Dave Richard invited BWM peoples there - and compare it with Norway the indoor arena. But the same for Sardinia - spectacular race in term of television with not so much spectator. We have to see the whole picture not to pick up a world like "casino" and to say that the event is scrap.
IRC promoter Eurosport doing live coverages since years - what do in this direction North One? I don't heard about any road map. Instead of increase the minutes on the screen its a step back this year. I'M happy with youtube in-car fotages, nice, but it touch less people and peoples who is realy fan but not the so cold "market" for what car makers are interested.
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5th May 2010, 14:36 #18
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Originally Posted by amilk
North One started to work 1 January, 2010 and he started making a media-story with the WRC launch in Paris. When ISC did something like that? Never! It's 5 years that there is no Playstation game, now it's under construction, same for website.
And from 2011 also all the footage will be produced in Native HD!
If that's not a good commitment...
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5th May 2010, 19:57 #19
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the car is just one part of the costs, the teams will still have the same(?) costs for things like research, catering, mechanics, PR, transports and etc...
cost saving was one one of the arguments when the ETCC/WTCC was started using S2K cars but how many factory teams is there in WTCC today?
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5th May 2010, 21:04 #20
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Originally Posted by amilkAja kovaa Pena.
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