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    Jag, that was.... Erm.... Taken out of context. Or so he says
    Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristjan
    In what comes to promoting the interests of a certain race or ethnicity, yes.
    In that case, you will of course agree that the current labour government is racist, due to the legislation a certain racist and sexist harriet harman has brought about?

    Quote Originally Posted by fandango
    I'll explain: You don't think the BNP candidate should bother speaking to a non-white person becuase they're never going to convince them of anything. Following YOUR logic, and going by my impression of your general attitude in the posts of yours I've seen, I shouldn't bother engaging you in discussion.
    Oh please do engage me in a discussion mr.fandango.
    Please, please, please.
    Will you just please engage me in a discussion, mr.fandango

    No seriously, do whatever you want, I dont care.


    Quote Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
    As far as I'm aware the goal of the NAACP is to protect / advance the civil rights of non-white minorities, thereby establishing eqality with whites. The goal of organisations such as the BNP is to re-create the sort of society where non-whites are second class citizens.

    Can't you see the difference?
    how is that the goal of BNP?

    Quote Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
    It was necessary when it was introduced. Non-whites were often being ignored by employers based solely on their race. Enforcing quotas on companies helped put a stop to this and advance equality.

    It ain't perfect and I'm not sure it is necessary nowadays, but it was better than the alternative.
    Anyone supporting affirmative action is a racist in my view. In the current world where lefties are so much against racism and they are the first to cry racism over anything, they should be against affirmative action as well. That they are not, just exposes what hypocrites they are.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
    It took me about 30 seconds to learn that most of the founding members of the NAACP were White. And the NAACP didn't have a Black president until 1975 - before then, they'd all been White. AFAIK, the NAACP doesn't discriminate againt people based on their race or religion. And they've had White people in the organzation since Day 1... so maybe you should choose a different (better ) example. I don't know. I'm just sayin'.
    I never said they didnt have whites in their organization, but when have they ever done anything in support of whites? Never, because they deal with different issues. That is okay in my view, just as much as it is okay for some party or organization to deal with the problems of whites. Simple?

    This is three degrees past "too f'ing funny". A group that holds hands with a former Grand Wizard of the KKK, David Duke, isn't racist. Riiiight. Hey, I've got some ocean front property in the midwest that I'll sell cheap to anyone who (actually) believes that.
    David Duke, in my view, is an idiot and a racist and should be laughed at. Much like Al Sharpton and jesse jackson, actually. To have anything to do with any of them is an embarrassment.

    Here is your boy, Nickie G., teaching his American counterparts how to "sell" the message, without using words that will turn people off (before they can get their hooks in them and get a hood or a helmet on their heads).
    What was wrong with that video? Do you think other parties are not about "selling their ideas"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Walker
    What was wrong with that video? Do you think other parties are not about "selling their ideas"
    There's a difference between what parties do by perhaps making things look a little bit better than they are and dressing racism and hatred up as fairy floss and puppy dogs.
    Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Walker
    In that case, you will of course agree that the current labour government is racist, due to the legislation a certain racist and sexist harriet harman has brought about?
    Do you seriously expect me to know what you're talking about?

    I've made my opinion pretty clear though, I think: There is no place in the modern world for policies based on racial distinction. Distinction based on sex, social standing, income -- yes. Race -- no.

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    Garry...if you have a point, I lost it in there....

    That said, the NAACP I think is an organization that ran its course. With Obama in the White House, I think we can say that for the most part, America has dropped a lot of its racial past. There are laws on the books against discrimination, and there is a wariness and sensitivity to the condition of African Americans that didn't exist 30 years or 60 years ago.

    The danger now is for things to be going overboard....and you see elements of that when you have Jimmy Carter castigating anyone who disagree's with Obama as a redneck racist.....
    "Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Walker
    Oh please do engage me in a discussion mr.fandango.
    Please, please, please.
    Will you just please engage me in a discussion, mr.fandango

    No seriously, do whatever you want, I dont care.
    I'll continue to read your posts, and I respect the fact that you have opinions that are, in my opinion, nonsensical and objectionable (It wouldn't be much fun to come on here and find that everyone agrees). What I can't understand is what YOU get out of this, because you seem incapable of even seeing how your perspective may be seen by someone who doesn't share your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry Walker
    I never said they didnt have whites in their organization, but when have they ever done anything in support of whites?
    By supporting things like minimum wage laws and industrial safety standards (again, a 30 second search... am I the only person with access to Google?!), the NAACP has supported initiatives which have benefited Whites (usually poor Whites) as much or more than Blacks.


    David Duke, in my view, is an idiot and a racist and should be laughed at.
    Why would you laugh at David Duke and not Nick Griffin? They're cut from the same cloth... or sheet, as it were.


    What was wrong with that video? Do you think other parties are not about "selling their ideas"
    There was nothing wrong with that video. I found it very telling.
    "Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
    and you see elements of that when you have Jimmy Carter castigating anyone who disagree's with Obama as a redneck racist.....
    When did Carter castigate "anyone" who disagreed with Obama as a redneck racist?
    "Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith

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