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Thread: Citroen WRT vs Ford WRT
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19th April 2010, 17:38 #21Originally Posted by MJW
Duval is a good driver, I was so happy when he was leading Rally Germany back in 2007.
The win in Australia in 2005 was well deserved.
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19th April 2010, 19:51 #22
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Originally Posted by Ghostwalker
They (Ford) are underperforming because they are a tree with branches jam packed full of leaves which are underperforming regularly. They don't have near enough in-depth quality personell with the aptitude to win big and often to be able to worry Citroen even for one stage let alone one day or one rally. Latvala and Hirvonen do and can nab the odd stage win from Citroen here and there - but not anywhere near as consistently as Loeb, Sordo and Solberg (I have a question mark over Ogier though). I now look to 2011 and the idea that perhaps with the Fiesta already being built and run by M-Sport for the SWRC teams like JanPro and Nupel Global Racing.
What about Frederic Villagra at Muchi's World Rally Team? That is another team with Focuse's built by MSport.
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19th April 2010, 20:12 #23
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Ford (M-sport) makes good money. Citroen wins champioships. That is difference.
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20th April 2010, 05:51 #24
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Originally Posted by Moriarty
That is the difference !!
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20th April 2010, 05:59 #25
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Citroen mother company is making money - they can invest to rally. Ford mother company has been losing money since 1980 or something - they cannot invest as much. That's the difference. It's basic economics, when company is doing poorly, they reduce spending on marketing, like sponsoring a rally team.
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20th April 2010, 07:41 #26
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Originally Posted by Kamikaze
With Wilson Jr they don't make money and no result. Sit someone in this car who bring some money to the budget and in the same time will deliver some result.
The Fiesta will not change anything if the policy will be the same.
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20th April 2010, 08:25 #27
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Originally Posted by Woodeye
Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???
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20th April 2010, 10:36 #28
money or not, it has to do what kind of choices you make.
Most important @ Ford: why must his son drives the Stobart car?
Malcolm knows like everybody else that his son is really crap.
Why didn't he give a Fiesta2000 the whole season, it was for sure more fun for his son and more competition
And he can learn a bit more fighting in speedwise. He's now learning absolut nothing, can he be proud of a 6 or 7th place? Don't think so.
So get a speedy driver in the Stobart car asap, it will benefit the Ford boys Mikko&Jari for sure.
As said here before; if the situation keep the same, they can bring even a better car but with Loeb still out there and even Ogier is already shining Ford will have to do it with the crumbles left by Citroen.
Ford must hire Ogier for 2011 if possible (if not than bring Petter back), give Meeke the Stobart car, that would be something right to do...
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20th April 2010, 12:36 #29
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Newspapers in Sweden says PG will drive a M-sport Fiesta R2 in Pirelli rally this weekend. Malcolm W phoned PG before Turkey and asked him - so there you have your fast driver to line up Stobart rest of the year....
"Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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20th April 2010, 13:09 #30Originally Posted by Rallyper
I hope PG will take over the sponsers from H. Solberg otherwise the sponsers are insane, H. Solberg is a nice person and good for the show but not enough speed. It's time for action at the front, battles to the end!
Yes I fear so too, you just need to look at the new cost for tourists to get into Venice and when everyone sees the amount of money being made others will soon follow, and prices will go up. As...
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