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Thread: Citroen WRT vs Ford WRT
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18th April 2010, 19:31 #11
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No other driver in the whole history of the sport had such immunity and support as Wilson Jr....
something really fishy might be going with the ford b-team maybe the tax service of brittain need to investigate, Or maybe not......
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18th April 2010, 19:51 #12
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Today I was reading the newspaper and I noticed a comment from Mikko. "I have to forget my survival instinct and put the pedal to the medal!"
What?!
You need to forget that survival instinct in the first SS if you want to challenge Seb. Too many times I have read comments from Mikko in the Finnish media that "Now I have to start to push, have to forget survival instinct or put the pedal to the medal"
Loeb doesn't give same kind of comments. It's only like "All is going fine, I'm going flat out" or "I can't go faster (this happens though very rarely)". I don't know if it's when Mikko tries to go in the pace of Loeb, he needs to overachive hugely or does those comments say that he has some safe-mode allmost always on or he has bad uncertainty of his speed. If he has, those seems to be permanent.
When Loeb and Ogier are going flat out and attacking one knows that they really are attacking and they really have the raw speed!
In Latvala's case it's clear that he has the raw speed too. When he pushes the car is on it's limits. But too often it goes over those limits.
In Mikko's case I have always had a confusion about the state of his skill/100% determination/car.
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18th April 2010, 21:00 #13MJWGuestOriginally Posted by jacko
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18th April 2010, 21:31 #14
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19th April 2010, 04:20 #15
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Have I missed something? There are only 15 points between the CWRT and FWRT after 4 events, it is still very close.
Citroen WRT is Loeb and Sordo, and Sordo has yet to set foot on the podium this season. If he keeps up his poor form this is going to cause a real problem for Citroen for the manufacturers championship.
If Hirvonen hadn't made his rare mistake in Jordan then things would be a lot closer. He's obviously trying hard to drive on the limit rather than settle for second and hope Loeb stuffs up (which nearly paid off last year). However now that Petter has refound his enjoyment of rallying I think the real threat is Loeb / Petter blocking out 1/2 on the podium and Hirvonen having to fight for third.
I don't believe Latvala has lost pace this year, I think he has accepted he is doing a different job and on that basis is having a good year so far, even with his roll in Turkey. He is backing Mikko up and scoring more consistently than Sordo. Its no good matching Seb's pace for 11 stages only to plough off the road on the 12th...
I think this year the makes championship will be a lot closer than you think and I wouldn't be surprised if Loeb / Petter / Mikko / Latvala / Ogier all had a turn on the top of the podium before the season is up......
I don't think the C4 is generally better than the Focus - they both have strengths and weaknesses, I think we are just seeing the usual all conquering Seb and a revitalised Petter against a Ford no1 and no2 that are getting used to having to use different driving approaches this year.
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19th April 2010, 04:22 #16
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
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19th April 2010, 07:42 #17
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Time to wake up for Wilson sr. and to give the car of the junior to someone who can challenge the podium (like Petter, Ogier at Citroen).
Tarmac events are coming and we will not see a single Ford in top4.
I like Mikko but little bit tired to see the comments that "ok I have to push harder" - this is what he says since 3 years. Last year he was very lucky to challenge the title till the last race.
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19th April 2010, 08:31 #18
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Originally Posted by mjh
But one rally does not make a season. Jarri has a 23pt lead over Danni and of course has out scored Sordo on every rally. In Jordan was higher than Sordo in 15 stages with 12 ending higher than Sordo.
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19th April 2010, 10:07 #19
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Malcolm seems to think more about business than winning. Having some drivers that are there just for money is surely ok, but you should also have some challengers to attack.
There are free drivers that would be able to fight in the Top 6 given the opportunity:
Atkinson - about as fast as Petter if we should judge by times in crappy Subarus
P.G. Andersson
...and also one Petter Solberg
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19th April 2010, 10:13 #20
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Originally Posted by ridder
Atkinson Or PG would be great in Stobart but i guess they didn't the big sponsors like Henning or even Block i guess
Another thing to consider is that Citroen is a factory based team vs Ford being a contracted team through M-Sport.. Do you think this would make much of a difference, Citroen probably has a bigger bank balance i assume?
Good to see him back in a Skoda, his Octavia WRC days jumped to my mind immediately :D
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