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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostwalker
    actually i'd like the opposite. This is the WRC the pinnacle championship
    of rallying. If i want to see some standard cars i'll go watch a local rally.

    For the world championship i would like to see purpose built cars
    like Grp A or WRC cars. They are appealing to me because they are advanced cars that are fast and powerful without being as extreme as the GrpB cars.

    If i would put the effort, time and money on attending a wrc rally i would like to get good value in return.
    And grp N (and to some extent <=S2k) cars alone wont give me that value.

    IMO all this simplification and cost saving just devaluates the
    World Rally Championship from a pinnacle to some standard b-series.

    Its like FIA would transform F1 to GP2/3 standards.
    I like your idea

    Group N Cars are alittle boring compared to thw WRC cars, thats just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostwalker
    actually i'd like the opposite. This is the WRC the pinnacle championship
    of rallying. If i want to see some standard cars i'll go watch a local rally.

    For the world championship i would like to see purpose built cars
    like Grp A or WRC cars. They are appealing to me because they are advanced cars that are fast and powerful without being as extreme as the GrpB cars.

    If i would put the effort, time and money on attending a wrc rally i would like to get good value in return.
    And grp N (and to some extent <=S2k) cars alone wont give me that value.

    IMO all this simplification and cost saving just devaluates the
    World Rally Championship from a pinnacle to some standard b-series.

    Its like FIA would transform F1 to GP2/3 standards.
    Do we want a series for 'Production based' cars, or Prototypes??

    I think that the more specialised the car, the more expensive - and less Manufacturer interest. And that is the problem - World Rallying has become less relevant. Make the cars simpler and cheaper to attract interest, then it maybe better.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    I want it much simpler. except for safety requirements it should only be one rule. IT MUST BE WHEEL DRIVEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyRAC
    Do we want a series for 'Production based' cars, or Prototypes??

    I think that the more specialised the car, the more expensive - and less Manufacturer interest. And that is the problem - World Rallying has become less relevant. Make the cars simpler and cheaper to attract interest, then it maybe better.
    Thats how I see it and the point I was trying to get across - the WRC should be more relevant for the cars they are supposed to be advertising.
    Great work of being able to put thought to writing.

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    To attract more manufacturers, the cost of operating WRC program has to stay in a reasonable range but the cost shouldn't take the technical challenge away. In general, a lot of car manufacturers are putting their effort in hybrid, electric, and clean-diesel, so I think WRC should also allow some freedom in the direction of where the car manufacturers are looking into. I think Le Mans are a good example of letting manufactures to introduce what they are actually interested in, and WRC should follow the same.
    Waiting for Subaru to come back to be :champion:

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw
    One of the disappointing things I see about the WRC is that the cars are so fragile these days.

    Once upon a time, drivers could have a rollover, push the car back on it's wheels and keep going.

    I have a photo on my wall of Sainz's car on it's side (from 2004?) - the text below it says that he finished the event on the podium. Compare that to Hirvonen's experience in Jordan rally.

    Longer, harder stages and more robust cars would make the competition more interesting (but less close).
    I dont think there are any huge differences between now and the Xsara. Its to do with the force/loadings on the components in the two accidents. It comes down to fine fractions as to whether one breaks and another survives. You could say Sainz was lucky or Hirvonen unlucky. WRCs have not suddenly got less robust in the past five years.

    Also funny to see the sarcasm missed at the start of the thread. One of the best things about forums.
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