Sao Paolo confirmed for opener

[anthonyvop]

I saw some pics of the proposed layout. Looks like it could be a very fast circuit with 2 or 3 good corners for passing. Not sure about the roads though, from some of the pics it looks like it could be pretty bumpy. I kind of wonder how teams prep for a course that they've never been on before.

Four 90 degree corners and one 180?

[Mark in Oshawa]

I am not impressed. Sorry guys, another street circuit in a country loaded with road courses with only 4 months prep time ? Didn't we lambaste CCWS for this sort of stuff? The course is dull. Where is a challenging section? This reminds me of that very simple course in San Jose complete with street car tracks. Interlagos may not have been available for political reasons, but there are other facilities. Roger Penske isn't all wrong but I can at least say Brazil is worth it. Just not this course, or on this short notice.

[Chamoo]

If that course happens, there will be fast lap times and lots of passing. It looks just like San Jose which was a terribly simple track yet had passing almost every lap.

[Mark in Oshawa]

If that course happens, there will be fast lap times and lots of passing. It looks just like San Jose which was a terribly simple track yet had passing almost every lap.

It had lots of passing after the Push to pass buttons AND the anti-blocking rules for sure. That said, I like watching guys negotiate a course that makes them work. This one is what street tracks shouldn't be.....

[ShiftingGears]

This one is what street tracks shouldn't be.....

Completely agreed.

[chuck34]

Is that really a mile long straight? If so ... well you guys are worried about insurance from going 240 at Indy? You ain't seen nutin' yet.

[Chamoo]

Is that really a mile long straight? If so ... well you guys are worried about insurance from going 240 at Indy? You ain't seen nutin' yet.

I'm not too worried. The cars would be trimmed out in road course downforce and usually top out around 237-239 MPH on the back stretch at Indy (I believe) once they hit the rev limiter so I doubt they will do anything close to that in Brazil. Also, I'm not sure how you judged that to be a 1 mile straight. The whole track is only 2.36 miles long.

[chuck34]

I'm not too worried. The cars would be trimmed out in road course downforce and usually top out around 237-239 MPH on the back stretch at Indy (I believe) once they hit the rev limiter so I doubt they will do anything close to that in Brazil. Also, I'm not sure how you judged that to be a 1 mile straight. The whole track is only 2.36 miles long.

speeddurango said it was 1 mile. I didn't do too much looking at it other than to notice that it'll probably be another boring street race. The rev limiter is not a speed limiter, they could just change out the gears. If it were a one mile straight, and with the turns all being 90 or 180 degrees, I would say that the cars will be trimmed out as much as possible as there won't be too much compromise for those turns because they will just be pretty much low speed stuff.

But if it's that short then it won't really matter.

[Dr. Krogshöj]

Just a couple of points.

I understand the start/finish straight will be inside the Sambodrome, between those grandstands. It means that there will be 35,000 seats without having to erect any temporary grandstands, plus VIP lounges and a media centre, as Tony Cotman indicates in the article.

There would also be a great overtaking opportunity in the last corner - the hairpin at the end of the riverside drive which would lead onto the start/finish straight between the grandstands (bottom right corner on the photo).

The course designers also have some degree of freedom designing the first and the second corners. As you can see on the photo, there is a big open parking lot there so they are able to design fast Esses as well as slower 90 degree corners.

[Chamoo]

speeddurango said it was 1 mile. I didn't do too much looking at it other than to notice that it'll probably be another boring street race. The rev limiter is not a speed limiter, they could just change out the gears. If it were a one mile straight, and with the turns all being 90 or 180 degrees, I would say that the cars will be trimmed out as much as possible as there won't be too much compromise for those turns because they will just be pretty much low speed stuff.

But if it's that short then it won't really matter.

Your right about the gears, forgot to think about that, but I would still think they would not run as fast as at IMS.