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13th August 2009, 23:00 #21
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Originally Posted by DexDexter
I'm not ass-kissing the US but I don't want the foreign to get too rosy picture about what we have. It's going to be a difficult task for US goverment and even they'd succeeded, I fear it might be very vulnerable of any economical and political changes.. at least for starters.Another Flying Finn
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14th August 2009, 00:19 #22
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Originally Posted by Starter
Title 26, better off known as the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, is just on 16,000 pages long, but without that piece of legislation the country would be unworkable.
Most people have little to no idea how the components of their car works either, but under the logic you've just imposed, then no-one would ever drive anywhere.
What the heck are the House of Representatives and Senate for anyway?The Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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14th August 2009, 00:55 #23
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Wow.
So much ignorance.
All these people from countries that have socialized medicine criticizing us in the US who don't want it and yet every day 1000's of people hop on planes around the world to come to the US for healthcare.
The USA has the best healthcare on the planet.....bar none.
out of the 40 million in the US(estimate) without health insurance about 14 million are Illegals. They can go back from where they came from which in all probability has Universal healhcare.
Another 15-20 million choose not to have Health Insurance by choice. They would rather make payments on a BMW I guess.
The rest still get medical care by law. They just have to pay for it later.
So what is the problem?
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14th August 2009, 01:31 #24
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Originally Posted by anthonyvop
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db09.pdf
- US Dept of Health and Human Services
This is the worst in the OECD.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...edicine_09.pdf
imedical problems contributed to at least 46.2% of all bankruptcies
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/337/jul21_1/a889
The United States ranked last across a range of measures of health care in a comparison of 19 industrialised countries, despite spending more than twice as much per person on health as any other of the countries, says a report published last week.
- British Medical Journal, 21 July 2008
Originally Posted by anthonyvopThe Old Republic was a stupidly run organisation which deserved to be taken over. All Hail Palpatine!
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14th August 2009, 03:27 #25
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Originally Posted by Rollo
Originally Posted by Rollo
Originally Posted by Rollo
The USA HAS THE BEST HEALTCARE BAR NONE!
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14th August 2009, 03:33 #26
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I think the real issue is the people know that unless the Gov't in Washington stops spending money like they can just print more, they know they cant afford this type of reform. Furthermore, they know countries like Canada who have nothing BUT gov't healthcare have many citizens come south for private care in the US if the lineup is getting longer than they would like.
I have lived in nothing BUT Socialized healthcare, and I wouldn't say it was bad, but too many Americans don't understand it isn't "Free". Obama isn't telling THAT side of things. There hasn't been an honest debate ANYWHERE o what this bill is about near as I can tell. I think this is just a pretext for a elite few liberals in America trying to ram through their utopia, and getting mad because people aren't buying it.
They need reform in the US, NOT wholescale socialization of the US healthcare system."Water for my horses, beer for my men and mud for my turtle".
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14th August 2009, 06:02 #27
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Originally Posted by Starter
In the real world nearly every consumer product and service are de facto
oligopolies all watching each other like hawks for a 2 cent advantage or worried they'll loose business if they're 2 cents over.
My experience with the US and multi-national corporations is that they rarely do the right thing and never does it economically for anybody but themselves.
So aside form the once theoretical ability, in a simpler time maybe 150 years ago, to walk down the road and take your business elsewhere--and theoretically, by not spending you $1.50 for some nails or paint or molasses, register you unhappiness, there is no accountability, even the threat of no money for even huge corporations run by $25,000,000 a year (salary plus options) executives doesn't scare the big Multi-nationals.
In the real world which has evolved while you and millions like you have been repeating old storybook tales long since discredited, maybe you didn't notice but even if they (those $25m exec) can't make money, they just stick out their hands and we give them money. Over a trillion dollars all told now...
You really think they care if you take your business elsewhere?
Grow up.
Get real.
Obama's plans don't go far enough, it's like he said in a different context: You can put lipstick on a pig, and it's still a pig.
I will give one example for all you Americans who keep repeating this tired bullsh!t about Government inefficiency. And I want you to explain to me something.
Seattle Washington and Vancouver Canada only 200kms apart. Very very similar ethnic and socio economic factors, similarly both very healthy and outdoorsy, similar Metropolitan area, similar diet (except those Commie socialist Red bastids have yummy HP Sauce on the table at eating establishments, and we have watery ketchup. And they are all Sossi commies, why ever notice what color the leaf is in their flag? Explain that!), and the University of Washington Hospital---where I have received several times both good and at another time indifferent treatment---and University of British Colombia Hospital are roughly equal size, see very similar numbers of patients getting very similar treatments---which one would reasonably expect with all the similar demographics.
In 199~~whatever toward the end, UW Hospital had a billing staff of 47 or 50 something AND some slimey Director of Billing or some such poof thing "earning" over 150-160,000 p.a.
UBC Hospital had a billing Department total of 2.
So you loyal freedom™ loving Americans who ENDLESSLY SAY how inefficient the Government always is, 'splain that
Dirty filthy Commie Red Canadian Socialists being suppressed by the burden of their inefficient Stalinist Government with 2 average salaries to pay, versus
the lean and mean Super efficient, Best Health care in the World, and certainly 2 times as expensive as the next,
with around 50 salaries to pay PLUS the parasite Director making 6-7 times the average wage: How is America's business model more efficient?
Maybe "Freedom isn't Free"? fawk yeah!John Vanlandingham
Sleezattle WA, USA
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14th August 2009, 07:32 #28
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Originally Posted by anthonyvop
All the Americans whom go abroad for healthcare, because its cheaper and they get the same if not better treatment and care...
Its called medical tourism..check it out....the big print giveth the small print taketh
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14th August 2009, 08:46 #29
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Originally Posted by A.F.F.“Leave me alone!”
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