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13th August 2009, 18:43 #11
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having health innsurance is of cource a very smart choice, but people shouldn't be forced to have
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13th August 2009, 19:26 #12
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Originally Posted by steve_spackman“If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti
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13th August 2009, 21:09 #13
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Originally Posted by steve_spackman
Free government-provided health care for all can work, at least in small countries. We here in Finland have it and we have, for example, one of the lowest infant mortality rates in the world. I couldn't imagine people here accepting a situation where somebody would not get treated because he/she didn't have an insurance. But the US is so huge, can they afford free health care for everybody?“Leave me alone!”
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13th August 2009, 21:49 #14
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Originally Posted by DexDexter
The cost of insuring just the choicest, those generally young who need generally less, and the elderly and premature babies is already twice as expensive as most of the civilized world.
The opponents repeat their cliches "I don't trust the gubbymint.....' but that implies they have faith that the for-profit corporations who hire low wage minions in some warehouse reviewing and approving or disapproving procedures, or worse, a computer program, will do a better job.
It is folly here.
Via motorsport, I have had a chance to be treated for identical injuries in Sweden, France, UK, California and Washington State.
I have just had----after 12 years of fighting---2 spine operations related to the stresses from racing from 40-30 years ago.
12 years of dead ends, can't do it, "take it easy" , "try asprin" "try physical therapy.
None of that helps crushed discs and smashed nerves.
12 years of "the Best health care in the World" according to the armchair/keyboard experts.
What was the cost of lost production for 12 years?
Near disability for 12 years?
The difference between systems is one thing, the randomness of treatment is another.
ALL the systems depend on somebody listening.
When was the last time a Corporation listened to a complaint and did something that costs them money?John Vanlandingham
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13th August 2009, 21:55 #15
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It's incredible to think that judged by how much is spent by the federal government each year doesn't give everybody in the USA universal health care.
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13th August 2009, 21:56 #16
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Well said janvanverpa couldnt of said it better myself
the big print giveth the small print taketh
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13th August 2009, 21:59 #17
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the big print giveth the small print taketh
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13th August 2009, 22:24 #18
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Originally Posted by DexDexterAja kovaa Pena.
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13th August 2009, 22:25 #19
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I know it's a simplistic argument but I can't help but think that if the U.S. would divert only 1% of their annual ~$1 trillion in military spending to national healthcare, that would provide $10B
“If everything's under control, you're going too slow.” Mario Andretti
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13th August 2009, 22:29 #20
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Originally Posted by Starter
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