Breakaway off

[markabilly]

anyway, there goes bye, bye, my chances of ever seeing a GP at seca,


or anywhere in the usa

democracy, yeah right

[K-Pu]

It was clear that a split was going to be bad, but now it would be good to know the rules for the next year. And the entry list too...

I thought we´d finally have the breakaway series although the first time I said nothing would happen because nothing tends to happen, but seeing how things were going, I thought the FOTA were serious.

But no.

Finally their objective was to get rid of Max, and they have got it. And what happens with Take-The-Races-To-Nowhere Ecclestone? He´s still there, ready to get more money. I wonder if these cost-reduction measures will affect the tracks... If they do, maybe REAL tracks could come back to F1 because fees would be cheaper, but why do I have a gut feeling that tells me "in your wildest dreams, fool"?

When we see next year´s regs we´ll check if this war has achieved anything...

[woody2goody]

This is best for everyone. Now we can go racing in one proper series next year.

As long as the manufacturers don't milk it for all it's worth we'll be fine.

[markabilly]

I I wonder if these cost-reduction measures will affect the tracks... If they do, maybe REAL tracks could come back to F1 because fees would be cheaper,
...

in your wildest dreams, fool

[Bagwan]

Max is not gone until the election .
He's still there .

Indeed , we need to see the regs , and the entry list , to see what has really been achieved .

He's still there , making the rules , and they will be finalized before he leaves , so I hope they got more concessions than just him leaving , because he could really screw with things before he goes , if he does .
That would set it up , in a very Markabillion way , for him to say it was better when he was in charge .
Remember that he revelled in the support from the world's auto clubs when he was attacked by the camera whips .

There are 2 ways to look at this .
Max is ousted , due to the insistence of the FOTA teams , or , Max gives up his position to save F1 .
That's what it looks like today .

But , after the election , will the arguments stop ?
As Tamburello says , no .
But , I don't think it will be because of his reasoning . The teams understand that the business of F1 requires them to fight as a team themselves , as proved by them staying together as long as they have , despite being tested on many occasions .

I expect the rules will be not quite what we are hoping for , and that the championship is not quite as "saved" as we would imagine .
There will be calls to have Max back .

[ioan]

But what will change? It's not peace, just a cease-fire until next time.

Isn't that what happens in any democracy?!
We go and elect a president/government/parliament based on what they promise/propose than when they start going in other directions we start rubbishing them and they ultimately get it straight or step down or are voted out?!

This is how things work in a free world Tam, people agree on something and go ahead, as soon as they do not agree anymore they have a dispute over it and they try to reach a compromise.

I don't see where the problem is.

[Tazio]

in your wildest dreams, fool

Lear:
"Nothing can come of nothing: speak again."

King Lear 1, i 92

[Easy Drifter]

I will believe Mad Max is gone when there is a new president in place.
Mad Max has broken or gone back on his word so many times I wouldn't be surprised it he did it again.
After all things are going to be quiet (maybe) for the next few months and then watch Mad Max declare he is needed to keep F1 in line.
I really do not understand why so many are believing him this time.

[ArrowsFA1]

According to Autosport, based on Max's statement, what we have is:

• Max will not stand for re-election[/*:m:4opqj354]
• teams must call off the breakaway series[/*:m:4opqj354]
• teams must sign up to a new Concorde Agreement until 2012[/*:m:4opqj354]
• agreed to a reduction of costs[list:4opqj354]
• spending levels of the early 1990s within two years[/*:m:4opqj354]

[/*:m:4opqj354][*]one F1 championship[/*:m:4opqj354][*]2010 entry list to be announced later today[/*:m:4opqj354][/list:u:4opqj354]The BBC report Luca saying

• 2009 rules will apply in 2010[/*:m:4opqj354]
• same rules for everybody[/*:m:4opqj354]
• Stability[/*:m:4opqj354]

[shurik]

I'd rather waith for confirmation from FOTA in first place..

And I'd not believe a single word Max says, it's always the same trick - lot's of promisses, but then, in the mid september Max will change his mind due to somthing and his pocket delegates will elect him again. Kinda reminds of communist party in ussr..
And teams would have to agree, because there would be no way to organize something in 6 months rather than in 9, like today. Max just trying to win some time for himself..