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    Zero to hero teams?

    Which teams in the past replicate Brawn/Honda from being on the wrong side of the grid one year to being front runners the year after?

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    interesting question.

    one that I can think of: Ferrari: 1980 and '81: Pretty useless (apart from villeneuve in jarama and monaco) to 82: Constructors champions. nice turn around
    Congratulations Sebastian Vettel. Champion of the season of seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge
    Which teams in the past replicate Brawn/Honda from being on the wrong side of the grid one year to being front runners the year after?
    Mclaren 1981. Ferrari 1974.

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    Toleman when it became Benetton in 1986 or is that cheating?

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    Ferrari in 1961 (The 1960 Italian GP win doesn't really count because of the boycott)

    BRM in 1962 - 7 points in 1961 and Drivers' and Constructors' champions in 1962
    Duncan Rollo

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR
    interesting question.

    one that I can think of: Ferrari: 1980 and '81: Pretty useless (apart from villeneuve in jarama and monaco) to 82: Constructors champions. nice turn around
    Was the 1981 Ferrari really that bad? It was a decent midfielder in some instances, scrapping for points, which more than Honda were capable of last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge
    Was the 1981 Ferrari really that bad? It was a decent midfielder in some instances, scrapping for points, which more than Honda were capable of last year.
    well that is questionable, but it wasnt great. but the following season they were champions, so they definatly went through some transition.
    Congratulations Sebastian Vettel. Champion of the season of seasons.

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    Toleman when it became Benetton in 1986 or is that cheating?
    Teo Fabi did put the TG185 on pole at the Nurburgring in 1985. The only thing that scuppered the 1985 season for the team was the Goodyear runners refusing to agree to let Toleman run on Goodyears. The car itself wasn't too shabby.

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    i do remember Fabis pole but besides that the team did little in 1985 on Pirelli? tyres.

    if i remember Brabham also switched to Pirellis in 1985 and had an awful season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wedge
    Which teams in the past replicate Brawn/Honda from being on the wrong side of the grid one year to being front runners the year after?
    I don't know about being front runners, being front runners, but your title says zeros to heros, and Super Aguri sure as heck qualifies for that: a reject plus a test driver becoming heros.
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