Alberto Ascari's Record Of 9 Wins In A Row

[cynisca]

Between the 5 June 1952 (Belgian GP) and 21 June 1953 (Belgian GP), Alberto Ascari drove 9 times in a row as the winner over the finish line. But I think, this record is not really a record. Because there was the Indy 500 which was won by Bill Vukovich on 30 May 1953.

I know not all F1 drivers took part at the Indy 500 but it was part of the F1 championship. So the record doesn't count as a record in my opinion.

What do you think?

[Sonic]

Any race on the F1 calender counts for me. It would be like saying Shumi's win at Indy with 6 starters doesn't count.

[cynisca]

Any race on the F1 calender counts for me. It would be like saying Shumi's win at Indy with 6 starters doesn't count.

No, it counts. I mean the Indianapolis 500 which was part of the F1 championship between 1950 and 1960. The other races are the US GPs. They had took the Indy 500 in the F1 calender to call the championship as a world championship, because almost every GP was in Europe in the 1950s.

The first US GP was on 12 December 1959. In Sebring which was won by Bruce McLaren.

[ChrisS]

There are valid arguments for and against the 9 in a row record

On one hand, the 500 was part of the championship. All the 500 winners of that era are also scored championship points so not taking part and not winning it means he didn't win 9 championship races in a row

On the other hand the 500 ran to its own regulations and was never a Formula One race so even without taking part in that he still won 9 Formula One races in a row

In any case 7 or 9 races, its still a record

[cynisca]

There are valid arguments for and against the 9 in a row record

On one hand, the 500 was part of the championship. All the 500 winners of that era are also scored championship points so not taking part and not winning it means he didn't win 9 championship races in a row

On the other hand the 500 ran to its own regulations and was never a Formula One race so even without taking part in that he still won 9 Formula One races in a row

In any case 7 or 9 races, its still a record

Not really. Michael Schumacher had 7 wins in a row in 2004. Between the European GP (30 May 2004) and the Hungarian GP (15 August 2004).

[ChrisS]

Not really. Michael Schumacher had 7 wins in a row in 2004. Between the European GP (30 May 2004) and the Hungarian GP (15 August 2004).

so? even if you only count 7, Schumacher just tied the record, he didnt break it

[Rollo]

There are valid arguments for and against the 9 in a row record

There are no valid arguments for the 9 in a row record. This is the reason:

I mean the Indianapolis 500 which was part of the F1 championship between 1950 and 1960.

The Indianapolis 500 was part of the championship because the FIA sanctioned that... it was part of the championship. Since the FIA are the owners of the title, they alone decide the conditions which make up how it shall be run and won.
It really doesn't matter what regulations the race itself was run to. By virtue of above, that is an irrelevancy.

http://www.formula1.com/results/season/1953/690/
The official FIA website counts it as part of the '53 season. This battle is over!

[ChrisS]

it wasn't an F1 race (then again none of the 52-53 championship races were) so for most consecutive F1 wins 9 can be considered correct

[DazzlaF1]

Ascari won in NINE CONSECUTIVE STARTS

nuff said, thats a record in my view

[Cooper_S]

91 wins, 7 WDC's, 22 consecutive podiums and 13 wins in a single season...

nuff said, that's a record in my view