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[Mirek]

Yes, very informative. So I probably remember that wrong with the restrictor (but I'm sure the CNG car here had bigger one than petrol ones).

EDIT: According to MikeyD in R5 thread Basso's car has 32 mm restrictor. In videos it actually looks less powerful than the other Fiesta R5 so it might well be true. The worse news for Peugeot then and hat off for Basso.

[Jarek Z]

Am I now allowed to compare the stage times?

[OldF]

Few comments from Jari Ketomaa when ”Vauhdin Maailma” (1/2007) compared Subaru with Mitsu (Ketomaa has been driving with both cars).

“The advantage of the Mitsu is it’s engine. Up to about 150 km/h they are quite even but after that the Mitsu has an advantage”.

“The biggest advantage for the Subaru is it’s durability and on slow stages. The difference in the suspension and transmission make the Impreza faster on twisty roads.”

“The Subaru has a better weight distribution.” 1340 – 1350 kg in FRC, weight distribution with crew f/r = 57% / 43%. Ketomaa’s Mitsu 1360kg and weight distribution with the crew 62% / 38%.

“On slower roads the Mitsu is more challenging. It’s like a FWD car. It has to been throw into a turn preferably with higher speed than needed to get it to turn. The Subaru again when lifting the throttle slides which can then be controlled with the throttle.”

[OldF]

thanks Old F ,nice post.

Thanks guys. How many beers? 6 or maybe 12.

PS I can wait until next Friday.

[Jarek Z]

6 is a minimum! Thanks for this post. A great source of information!

And... it's great to see Basso winning again!

[dimviii]

Am I now allowed to compare the stage times?

be calm,not yet.Lets see some more rallies,and let 208 evolute a little bit.


@OldF 12 beers from me.

[Ucci]

Am I now allowed to compare the stage times?

be calm,not yet.Lets see some more rallies,and let 208 evolute a little bit.


@OldF 12 beers from me.

It is a big question how will be this possible if any technical upgrade is ''frozen''....at least according to FIA rules...

[Mirek]

It's not "any" technical upgrade.

[dimviii]

It is a big question how will be this possible if any technical upgrade is ''frozen''....at least according to FIA rules...

it is possible through fine tuning setup/mapping etc from existing parts.Frozen technical upgrade will be a problem,if they find something wrong that must be changed.Something like this is not known yet.
208 first rally wasn t so bad.Lets dont forget first s2000 cars rallies when were loosing from n4 cars.

[Rally Power]

Basso Fiesta uses LPG (liquid petroleum gas), mainly a mix of propane and butane. Other cars you’ve been talking about uses CNG (compressed natural gas), essentially methane. LPG (GPL in Italy) has higher energy value than CNG and requires less space for storage.

Seeing the BRC presentation pictures and info, it seems that the only modification from a normal Fiesta R5 is the GPL kit (gas injection system, fuel lines and wheel tank), like in any conversed Petrol/GPL road car (I used to drive one), even if they’re now using LDI technology that allows to inject liquid gas into the chamber (more efficient than previous gaseous injection).

Like many of you, I also think that main reason for Basso win was his driving skill, but we can always speculate that, depending on the propane/butane proportion, GPL can get higher octane rating than petrol.

http://www.rally.it/dai-gas-alla-tua-passione/
http://rally.brc.it/