View Poll Results: Do you think Loeb is the greatest ever WRC driver ?

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    If someone like Gronholm says so I am prone to believe it.
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    I don't know if Loeb is the greatest, but I think Citroen/Loeb/Elena combination is the greatest combination in the history of WRC. I personally think Kahkkunen, Carlos, or Burns might have achieved similar level of success as Loeb if he had team built around them for their entire career, but I can only imagine....
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    Loeb is a great driver but I also voted no because we never saw him in another team. The most of former champions performed in several teams with other cars. At the moment you can say, Citroën is the greatest!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother John
    The most of former champions performed in several teams with other cars.
    And usually they changed to better cars when switched team.
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    I voted no. Loeb very successful I agree. Four times champion gets my vote :

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    Yes. It's really easy to agree with Bosse on this one. I don't want to speculate "what if he would have driven in the '80" and so on. Just look at the stats.

    I really proud that I've been able to witness his career from beginning in the sport that I love. Many have been critizing the the sport is boring to watch because of Loeb, but that's not the case. It's the FIA who is trying to kill the sport by using every way possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonJippo
    I voted no not because I don't rate Loeb as a great driver but because whole idea of comparing drivers from different era's just don't make sense IMO. ?

    In this case would it not be more fair not to vote?
    Maybe the poll should really have a 3rd option, agree, disagree and disagree with trying to make comparisons like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonJippo
    I voted no not because I don't rate Loeb as a great driver but because whole idea of comparing drivers from different era's just don't make sense IMO. And when you think about it, what else would Marcus say having been beaten several times by Loeb... How would it make him look if he says anything else than Loeb is the greatest ever?
    I think Marcus has good grip to speak about perfoirmances of Tommi, Carlos and Colin. As Loeb himself has said Grönholm beated and outpaced those drivers with ease when he came in for a full drive. I have no slightest doubt that Marcus wouldn't have at least paralleled Tommi even in Tommi's good Mitsu years.

    There can be always said that Tommi, Carlos and Colin were over their peak when Marcus owned them. Probably so but it's likewise good to remember that Marcus basicly paralleled Loeb at age 38. Tommi was 37 when he retired and he was minutes off the pace.

    Loeb is obviously the best of modern time but it's little bit annoying that he has had constantly the best car. That's killer combination. If Loeb had been driving unreliable Peugeot or crap Subaru we would have had much more interesting situations.
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    just too bad Marcus did not beat him last year.. He came so close
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    Quote Originally Posted by cut the b.s.
    In this case would it not be more fair not to vote?
    Not at all. If you do not agree with polls such as this then the only logical vote is a NO vote.

    Unquestionably Loeb is the best of the current crop. And his achievements, statistically, are unequalled. He is therefore the most successful driver of all time.

    But the "greatest"? That's another story altogether.
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