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    Malcolm and losing with no dignity

    So what do people think about what's happened today?

    Mikko knows the title is over and wanted to lose with a bit of dignity but Malcolm had other ideas. Why oh why can Malcolm just not allow Mikko to lose with a bit of dignity?

    I personally think Ford should get a large penalty because of this.......
    Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.

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    It was not a Highlight for the Sport, no Question.

    But why a penalty ?
    Wich rule they have broken ?

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    Isn't there something about "bringing the sport into disrepute"?

    In Catalunya it was quite normal for them to do the swap, but here it involves 2 drivers, 2 positions and 2 different teams.

    Only a Ford fan could defend this, not a fan of sport or rallying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS
    Isn't there something about "bringing the sport into disrepute"?
    If this is a reason for the FIA to give them a penalty, they should do it.

    Only a Ford fan could defend this, not a fan of sport or rallying.
    I am a Ford Fan, but i have not to defend anything......

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    Don't think you can be banned / finned etc for a non existent rule and its only playing a tactical advantage.
    In my opinion they are only doing what they needed to do and put the crew with the points scoring remit to the best possible position.

    Ford need to have a title this year - it does not look good in the boardroom if you do not bring back some silverware. Mikko is 14points adrift for the drivers title and Ford is 23points off the manufactures - every point counts and I'm sure that M-Sport will not be sentimental is playing games like this to get the points.
    Just think if Ford pullout of the WRC then its M-Sport as well as the WRC that will suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc_flipper
    Just think if Ford pullout of the WRC then its M-Sport as well as the WRC that will suffer.
    Couldn't give a toss really. Don't like their tactics or their car.

    Ford have been playing games all year. Maybe they should just try winning rallies and championships by going the fastest.

    Wilson can go play chess if he likes tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrc_flipper
    Just think if Ford pullout of the WRC then its M-Sport as well as the WRC that will suffer.
    Good! The WRC and M-Sport can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
    Rule 1 of the forum, always accuse anyone who disagrees with you of bias.I would say that though.

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    The whole thing is tragic.
    It is the same as in F1 where races are lost and won while being in the pitlane and not out on the track !

    The drivers hate it
    The fans hate it
    Money is playing a too big of a role, and that has to change.

    Lets get a WR Car that all teams can buy and be competitive, and it is up to the drivers !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel
    Good! The WRC and M-Sport can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.


    Anyway I personnally prefer to follow IRC :

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    Now i have a very bad feeling that Hirvonen pretended to be against team orders today only to drive criticism away from him and at some level from the team.
    He too boldly said he was against it to be honest.
    And by accepting the fate he only acted like an ordinary good little soldier or like a Baricchelo.

    It raises a cultural question.
    If the Americans were actually in charge of their car and MSport, would have they acted like their (excellent) english servants ?
    Markku Alén, 1978 World Champion

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