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Thread: IndyCar to go to turbos in 2011
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24th August 2008, 19:02 #11Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior2nd place in the big quizz challenge!
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24th August 2008, 19:32 #12
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So V6? I cannot see such a turbo engine for IRL being more than 2.5L. And what rpms, maybe somewhere 10k-11k (as is now). The power limit for speed/safety issues on ovals was proved to be around 700-720 bhp. For road and street courses of course power can be increased to something like 800 bhp or even more without speeds reaching somekind of dangerous levels.
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24th August 2008, 20:24 #13
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Why not make the engine design more open for the builders? Instead of saying it has to be a V6, just give a displacement limit and a cylinder limit and let the manufacturers decide what kind of engine they want to build.
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24th August 2008, 21:35 #14
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
I think for a manufacturer to be viable in coming on board they should be selling cars here in the US. Not sure why Fiat would go for it. But BMW could benefit, as well as Audi (more than VW, I think). it would be nice to have a variety of world manufacturers to spice it up a bit, with at least one domestic manf."Racing is life. Everything before or after, is just waiting." Steve McQueen, Le Mans
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24th August 2008, 21:41 #15
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Originally Posted by DBell
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24th August 2008, 21:43 #16Originally Posted by fan-veteran
I think what the IRL is going to have to balance is performance vs. cost. For about $15 million per 2 car team per season, they could run F1 spec engines (based on some Cosworth numbers from a couple of seasons ago). We all know that's not realistic for the IRL. So what is? I don't know... something close to the million or so that they have now? Don't know. And if you allow the manufacturers to subsidize teams with discounted engines, what happens if & when a manufacturer leaves? What happens if they only want to subsidize certain teams and not others? What happens if the top manufacturer only wants to supply the top (or certain) teams? For whatever reason, the IRL chose to follow CART's engine lease path. Depending on who and how many sign on, it'll be interesting to see how this issue is dealt with too."Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith
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24th August 2008, 22:27 #17Originally Posted by Chaparral66
Anyway, Fiat's interest would likely revolve around the Alfa Romeo brand, which is supposed to be making a return to North America in 2010 or so. Fiat Group is already here with Ferrari and Maserati. I've heard BMW linked to the Fiat Auto/Alfa return. I've also heard Chrysler linked to that return. Who knows?
In global automotive, several interesting things are taking place. Porsche's takeover of VW/Audi should soon be complete. How that might affect racing programs at either concern is unknown. At the same time, VW wants more share in the U.S. and is expanding its presence in North America by building a plant in Tennessee. By 2011, one (or more) of the Big 3 will either be much smaller than now... or dead. That should affect NASCAR more than the IRL... but who knows what the fallout might be?"Every generation's memory is exactly as long as its own experience." --John Kenneth Galbraith
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25th August 2008, 15:30 #18
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Originally Posted by DBell"For 80 years this place has run on tradition. From today forward it will run as a business." - Tony George (Failed businessman)
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25th August 2008, 15:54 #19
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Who will pay that diversity?
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25th August 2008, 16:03 #20
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V6 Turbo's? WooHoo, the Buick is making a comeback Someone get John Menard on the phone. He loved those things!!
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you do realize that the power form the hybrid unit is not constant... It's there only for very short periods. So for a first time out it won't make a big differance
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