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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfiend
    Certainly all the drivers seemed to go 'balls to the wall' to win it. even with only 3 points on offer for the win.
    Not all of them. In some events Loeb (for example) didn't want to bin its victory just for 3 points added. Ogier is another case though
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv
    Not all of them. In some events Loeb (for example) didn't want to bin its victory just for 3 points added. Ogier is another case though
    He said that - at the start of the year, as did others - but was it true. He won lots of PS while leading the event.

    Didn't come true in reality. The red mist still seemed to take over for all of them.

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    If I remember right Loeb was the one who took the most PS points last season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stefanvv
    . Ogier is another case though
    which case you mean?Back off while he had 2 days remaining,the okto fight from Capito and the difference was 27 seconds?
    Personally i prefere to fight all the rally than just a powerstage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek
    How? The only possibility is to somehow limit budget of teams which is very difficult to control. Doing some mandatory financial audits as a part of sporting regulations is for me somewhat weird. However so far the actions were more pointed into simplifying technical rules but those failed for certain reason. Here another problem is that needs of manufacturers and privateers are completely different. For healthier sport cheaper for privateers I would prefer to get rid of homologations and let free space for alternative part suppliers etc. However that's something what manufacturers would never agree with.
    Given that resource restriction agreements and the like are very hard to enforce, I believe it has to come largely through a cheaper technical formula. Rallying today is beyond the point at which saying cost-cutting is impossible is a suitable get-out. Rising costs are, in my view, a significant factor in the decline of the sport both at national and international level.

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    Piece of news about Pozzo's future. He would run in Australia too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDunnell
    Given that resource restriction agreements and the like are very hard to enforce, I believe it has to come largely through a cheaper technical formula. Rallying today is beyond the point at which saying cost-cutting is impossible is a suitable get-out. Rising costs are, in my view, a significant factor in the decline of the sport both at national and international level.
    I can't agree with You. Ten year s ago cars were filled with in that time hi-tech stuff such as hydraulic differentials and gearboxes, very sophisticated launch-control systems, inlet water injection, there was plenty of carbon, almost everything was purpose made. Now we have basically 80'-90' level of machinery with no central diffs at-all, no launch control, no hydraulic gearboxes, no carbon bodyshell panels, no titanium parts etc. Both differentials are simple clutch type. The only "hi-tech" stuff is the engine with direct injection but that is hardly something entirely new as petrol direct injection is in use in stock cars already since 1996 (Mitsubishi Carisma). In fact it was used already in Mercedes 300SL in 1955!

    What more simple You want to invent? Fact is that current cars despite being technologically way more simple than previous ones are not cheaper. There is clear conclusion that You can't reduce costs by technical rules.

    Fabia S2000 driveshaft costs 2000 Euro. How do You want to make it simpler so that it's cheaper? It's not the design what makes it so expensive. Engine rebuild of Fiesta WRC costs 35-40 thousand Euro, why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek
    If I remember right Loeb was the one who took the most PS points last season.
    LOEB: 19
    SOLBERG:15
    LATVALA: 14
    HIRVONEN:13
    SORDO: 5
    etc,etc......

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    So, this year Ogier after 5 Rallies has 13 I believe

    EDIT: Ops, No PS at Monte I forgot, so 11 - Saison WRC
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    Quote Originally Posted by dimviii
    which case you mean?Back off while he had 2 days remaining,the okto fight from Capito and the difference was 27 seconds?
    Personally i prefere to fight all the rally than just a powerstage.
    No I meant only the above difference in PS points. As for the fight I too believe they should be all the Rally, but realistically Rally is far from these days.
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