Atkos Best Drive?

[DonJippo]

You have to understand that those drivers mentioned earlier had been successful when those cars were built according to their wishes and driving style.

I think this myth about cars being build for a certain driver should be long gone, if that was the case for example why did Peugeot build 307 WRC? Bosse did hate it from the day one or was it meant to be for someone else?

[Buzz Lightyear]

I think this myth about cars being build for a certain driver should be long gone, if that was the case for example why did Peugeot build 307 WRC? Bosse did hate it from the day one or was it meant to be for someone else?

it more to do with the lead driver setting the car upto his liking, and if it works for him, it should work for his team-mate. wrrrrongggggg.

[DonJippo]

it more to do with the lead driver setting the car upto his liking, and if it works for him, it should work for his team-mate. wrrrrongggggg.

Not quite, each driver has their own set-ups what they use that's why teams have test sessions for both their drivers and not just for #1.

[cali]

Not quite, each driver has their own set-ups what they use that's why teams have test sessions for both their drivers and not just for #1.

Usually cars have been built within cooperation between engineers, drivers and with other imoprtant staff included. Remember the time Loriaux built the 2003 Focus, it was mostly down to Markko's feedback (wishes) then.

[Daniel]

What Buzz and Cali are describing is what happened at Mitsubishi in the late 90's when Tommi was dominating the championship. Now some say that Mitsubishi didn't simply build a car for Tommi and that the others just weren't that great. Whatever you believe it's hard to fathom why Subaru would build the team and car around a guy who has never taken a win, let alone a title as Petter has done.

I simply don't see Subaru building the team around Chris and shutting out Petter..... come on! We all know how fast Petter is and how when the car is performing how he is up there with the top drivers. Subaru haven't made the car for Atkinson, Petter has simply lost his mojo and has forgotten how to drive like a winner.

DonJippo is perfectly right, both drivers get the chance to test and adapt setting to their liking. Petter is simply not doing this as well as Chris. Cali's example of Markko is a funny one. I seem to remember Duval doing quite well in the Ford Focus 03. The reason why Markko did the bulk of testing was because when compared to Duval he is a much more complete driver and you have to remember that Colin and Carlos were out the team at the end of 02 when the car was being developed.

[Tomi]

Even Loeb can be crap when he does not feel comfortable with driving Focus.

Yes maybe for 1-2 rallies, after that the car propably would be the way he like it, Vatanen also was very good in Ford many years ago, but now propably not.

[Mickey T]

I think Petter needs some defending here

After New car arrival Impreza wrc 2008

Teammates Petter-Atko 2-1

Driver points taken: Petter 14, Atko 6 , same for manu points.

Chris has upper hand in Germany, Petter has never done well there.

that's an incredibly selective "analysis" that completely fails to account for non-driver related mechanical and teething issues on the new car, almost all of which have arrived on chris's car...

...even in finland.

[duff]

C'mon Mickey T - spill it for us...
you know you want to...

[Viking]

that's an incredibly selective "analysis" .

Nope, covers all rallys done with wrc2008

that completely fails to account for non-driver related mechanical and teething issues on the new car.

Yes, wrc points works like that

almost all of which have arrived on chris's car.

Nah, Petter has had lots of problems, but Chris has got (and made) the bigger ones yes.

[cali]

Yes maybe for 1-2 rallies, after that the car propably would be the way he like it, Vatanen also was very good in Ford many years ago, but now propably not.

Until this has not happened, we do not know. At the moment it is just guessing

It has got a little bit OT now, so let's go back to Chris...