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11th July 2008, 00:12 #21
The thing is Daniel (and i'm not arguing with you as you have your view) If Meeke was good enough for the WRC teams then he would be in there, if he could raise the money like Guy Wilks is looking to do then he could have any car.
If you have the money you can wreck (within reason) what you want as your paying for it
When Colin was wrecking Subarus he was told by DR to calm it down as it was costing Subaru and Prodrive silly money at the time
If you have the money then teams will welcome you
If you havent then we will see you when you have
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11th July 2008, 00:43 #22
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Originally Posted by m.lowe
Has Conrad R got aspirations to be a works driver? Long way to go given his WRC career to date.
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11th July 2008, 00:53 #23
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I think Mark is right, if Meeke would be good enough he would have by now the same manager that Latvala and Hirvonen has.
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11th July 2008, 01:17 #24
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Originally Posted by Tomi
And Tomi doesn't Timo Jouhki only have an interest in Finnish drivers? (as far as I know)
His family company have excellent connections in the commercial world to further a driver's career. Can't think of anyone else outside Finland in a simlar position.
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11th July 2008, 03:03 #25
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Originally Posted by Daniel
When there are good british drivers like Meeke and co sitting on the sidelines doing SFA and you've got Conrad wasting so much money it's almost criminal.
Funny thing is a few years ago when the WRC was in better health people on this forum used to bollock the rather safe yet slow Warmbold yet now that there aren't too many cars out there they seem to care about losing a badly driven WRCar from the entry lists. Strange.
Face it Daniel, this is nothing more than another childish rant about a driver who you've chosen to bag because he's not here to defend himself. Doing so somehow flatters your ego. It's very sad.
The world over, and at all levels, motorsport has historically been frequented by persons with 'colourful' profiles and whose money has questionable origins.
Feel free to cast whatever moral judgements you wish however please spare the rest of us your nonsense.Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to a paramedic.
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11th July 2008, 03:58 #26
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The question that must be asked is why does it really matter.
You can argue principle (there are certainly worse arguments to make) but why should that really matter.
I doubt that we would see the same kind of outrage these days if we had big pharmaceuticals or tobacco back in as sponsors, yet, they do as much harm, if not more, to places like Africa, then the Rautenbach family does.
Nobody wants to slag off the energy drink sponsors that make a product full of harsh stimulants that can so change the balance of one's body that they can literally poison you. That is a global trend, not just concentrated to one country.
I simply find this thread amusing. As some may recall there was a handful of our African forum members that posted about the dubious and out right shameful status of the Rautenbach family. Yet back then, we didn't have any loud mouth forumers going around and getting on their soap box. What has changed? Why does it matter now? Because you just realized it?
If anyone is to be so principled as for this to be as big of an injustice as some have made it out to be, then why did they wait so long as to poke into the background of the driver and his funding. You need to only briefly scratch the surface to realize what kind of things provide the funding and the status of the family.US Hillclimb and Rally Photos
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11th July 2008, 06:24 #27
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Originally Posted by noel157Aja kovaa Pena.
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11th July 2008, 06:33 #28
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Originally Posted by Daniel
Then it was he was a danger to all involved. If you are EVER hit by a rally car on a rally then your are 100% in the wrong. You should ensure you are in a place where you WILL NOT be hit regardless of where the car may end up in different circumstances.
Then it was he was wasting money (spoilt rich kid). Well it's none of your cash so you can keep quiet in the cheap seats about how his dad decides to spend it...
Now it is because of the dirty money. Yes, dirty the money may be, however you continually just talk dribble and are looking EVERYWHERE for a reason to bag the guy.
We all know you have a fetish with Conrad and your continual dribbling about him got boring a long time ago, it's been said on the forums before about where the funds come from so not like you have just made a ground breaking discovery...."It's the most fun you can have with your pants on" - Possum Bourne
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11th July 2008, 06:51 #29
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The thing is that there is dodgy money all across sport the fact that total sponsors rally teams is case in point.However this has to be one of the more unsavoury sources of money i have seen.If Conrad was a decent rally driver this would be more of a issue but he is just another privateer and i believe he wouldnt be the only privateer that gets his/her money from less than reputable sources.
I think singling him out is slightly unfair however considering how much of a nasty piece of work his old man is and there would be no doubt he is behind this considering i dont think any other team would take him and there would be no sponsorship sources in his home country due to the fact its well....f**ked.
I can fully understand why Daniel would have a grudge but he doesnt need to repeat it.
However Motorsport (and sport in general) has rarely cared where they get there money from due to the competition for the sponsorship dollar.As someone pointed out before until recently many series where funded (some quite heavily) by tobacco companies and the consequences of that are far greater than some dodgy businessmen however unsavory in Africa.
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11th July 2008, 08:59 #30
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Originally Posted by Tomi
Yep, that's true. Meeke was one of them he studied.Another Flying Finn
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