Cleveland Still Alive

[!!WALDO!!]

Hey Waldo and MDS, what did you do for CART and your team (and what team)?

I'm not trying to call anyone out or anything, I'm just curious.

I just stood around and looked stupid.

[MDS]

Hey Waldo and MDS, what did you do for CART and your team (and what team)?

I'm not trying to call anyone out or anything, I'm just curious.

My first ever job was cleaning up the Forsythe pit space and being a gopher for them back in 1983 when I was 13. I got paid the whopping sum of $10 a day for three weeks during May. Then did a year working on PR/driver's PA for Arciero-Wells in 1999 which went on to become PPI and then switch to NASCAR after the 2000 season. I didn't want be be on the road as much as NASCAR requires so I moved to Patrick racing.

[!!WALDO!!]

In 1983 you had to be 18 to be in the pits at all CART races.

Just a point of reference. IMS was 21.

[dataman1]

I just stood around and looked stupid.

What kind of anwer is that? If you want people to believe you, you should give some verification of your credentials.

[!!WALDO!!]

What kind of anwer is that? If you want people to believe you, you should give some verification of your credentials.

I just did, above. What credentials do you have?

See on the Internet, nobody believes anything anyone says. If I told you I was on an Advance Team, you wouldn't believe me? If I told you I supplied stories to the press, you would think it was BS. If I told you I took care of credentials and paddock passes, you would ask for proof. If I told you I did research into a CART "B" Series, you may say what is that?

So do not believe I said as this is the internet and it is all an illusion.

(NO REFERENCE, IMPLIED OR REAL TO ANY POSTER, LIVING, DEAD, or NOT YET BORN.)

[ykiki]

If I told you I did research into a CART "B" Series, you may say what is that?

Ummm.... I guess I'll be the foolish one that asks.

What is that?

[!!WALDO!!]

Roger Penske came up with an idea of a "training series" using older CART equipment.
This would have allowed teams to empty space of old obsolete equipment.
Form new ownership opportunities.
Develop new drivers, mechanics and crews.
Develop new dates away from CART.
Develop new officials.

All while being cost effective and putting money into every team's pockets.

You can guess what we got and why?

(NO REFERENCE, IMPLIED OR REAL TO ANY POSTER, LIVING, DEAD, or NOT YET BORN.)

[ykiki]

Roger Penske came up with an idea of a "training series" using older CART equipment.
This would have allowed teams to empty space of old obsolete equipment.
Form new ownership opportunities.
Develop new drivers, mechanics and crews.
Develop new dates away from CART.
Develop new officials.

All while being cost effective and putting money into every team's pockets.

You can guess what we got and why?

(NO REFERENCE, IMPLIED OR REAL TO ANY POSTER, LIVING, DEAD, or NOT YET BORN.)

What year was this?

[coogmaster]

Was it Indy Lights in the early '90s?

[MDS]

In 1983 you had to be 18 to be in the pits at all CART races.

Just a point of reference. IMS was 21.

Yeah, I should clarify I was never in the pits, and was only in the garage area during when cars weren't on the track, a few times at night when pretty much everyone else had gone home, but I was still techincally paid for "Sweeping on the garage," as my uncles got there start that way and thought it was an important right of passage. Largely it was just away for my uncle to give me some walking around cash and to encourage me to help look out for the younger kids, because my cousins and I did a lot of baby sitting.