Trouble ahead for WSR?

[Les]

Harder he tries the worse it gets

[SEATFreak]

Harder he tries the worse it gets

In what way does it get worse the harder he tries?

I mean, I am not saying it is any kind of achievement because clearly it ain't becase clearly it just ain't anywhere near good enough, but by my judgement he seems to be on a level with no realy dramatic slump anywhere. Not in results. Five times he has come 11th and each of the three other times he has finished are in the same 3 places (13th, 14 & 15th).

So I wouldn't say things are getting worse. It is just things aren't getting better. I don't see anywhere he is starting to improve.

[Alfa Fan]

In what way does it get worse the harder he tries?

Don't worry about it SEATFreak. Whilse Jelley hasn't done very well, Les is still just bitter about Andy Neate not getting the drive.

[BDunnell]

In what way does it get worse the harder he tries?

I mean, I am not saying it is any kind of achievement because clearly it ain't becase clearly it just ain't anywhere near good enough, but by my judgement he seems to be on a level with no realy dramatic slump anywhere. Not in results. Five times he has come 11th and each of the three other times he has finished are in the same 3 places (13th, 14 & 15th).

So I wouldn't say things are getting worse. It is just things aren't getting better. I don't see anywhere he is starting to improve.

I think that's a very fair assessment. Personally, I feel rather sorry for the chap, as he can't be enjoying not getting any points either.

[VX_Rules]

I bet WSR are kicking themselves right now, one for losing the OC, and two, for picking Jelley. Things would have been sweeter with a better decision.

[SEATFreak]

I bet WSR are kicking themselves right now, one for losing the OC, and two, for picking Jelley. Things would have been sweeter with a better decision.

Spot on with both counts; especially the latter.

But would TOC be doing as well if not better for WSR as he is doing for VXR mow?

I think he would have improved on last seasons performance as he would have had a year of work with WSR and the 320si under his belt but to the Vectra is so much better and consistent in it's success rate than the other cars in this current BTCC era (Leon, Integra, Civic and 320si) it tends to make drivers who are very good look world class. Not obviously Giovanardi and Neal as they are truly worldclass. Now, this is no slight against what Tom has achieved this season, but I am sceptical about whether or not Tom could have on Sunday been one race away from doing something only Dan Eaves has ever done; win all 3 races in the 3-race format BTCC, in the 320si.

[Dave B]

Don't worry about it SEATFreak. Whilse Jelley hasn't done very well, Les is still just bitter about Andy Neate not getting the drive.

Hey, if Andy can kick my a**e in a kart then he must be good

[VX_Rules]

Your right bout OC, He'd of definately improved on his last season in the Beemer, but Front wheel drives where he is at and needed that drive At Vauxhall.

[tyreman2]

Hey, if Andy can kick my a**e in a kart then he must be good

Jelley does seem to be taking longer to get to grips with the BMW than you would have expected.But please don't even try to put Andy Neate in the same league.I am quite sure that Dick Bennetts thinks he chose the right man out of those two,after all he is proving quicker than Collard

[reidy_fan]

Don't worry about it SEATFreak. Whilse Jelley hasn't done very well, Les is still just bitter about Andy Neate not getting the drive.

dont know about Les being bitter perhaps Andy would have done a better job than jelley, come to think of it there is a heck of a lot of drivers that would have delivered more than jelley