WRC Testing

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What hits you is the big difference in power from those R5 cars. Seems the Citroen is way down compared to Skoda and Fiesta.

What hits me is the bigger noise of the PSA cars !

[Rallyper]

It´s not the car, it´s the driver... Swedish one is just slower

Knew that would come.
But my opinion is still lack of power for the Citroen. Combined possibly with Emil just finding the feeling on vid.

[Rallyper]

From my experience on stages the PSA cars are very slow from 1st gear corners (on asphalt huge and very clearly visible difference). It may not be only torque related but also due to seemingly very low level of ALS compared to Škoda.

And it was out from those slow corners the Citroen seemed not accelerate like the others. However Dimviii has a point, discussed many times. It´s hard to see this or that.
Just said it hit med and I saw what I saw.

[dimviii]

From my experience on stages the PSA cars are very slow from 1st gear corners (on asphalt huge and very clearly visible difference). It may not be only torque related but also due to seemingly very low level of ALS compared to Škoda.

I think we have to take the help from br21 here.

[dimviii]

It´s not the car, it´s the driver... Swedish one is just slower

of course is the driver.At least at asphalt we have seen that psa cars are quite fast.
Ucci didn't won a rally power related,but a rally with corner after corner,more related to torque.
Abbring was faster from Princen with fabia till he bined it,at a rally with many 1st gear accelerations.
If you have any other explanation,i will be happy to listen.
imho at asphalt,psa are not at disadvantage,there are plenty examples.
Maybe more difficult to setup? probably.
Not reliable probably.
Not fast as fabia/fiesta at gravel? probably.

[RS]

Mikkelsen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6FosNZWp6Q

Latest car definitely sounds a bit raspier.

[RS]

Abbring was faster from Princen with fabia till he bined it,at a rally with many 1st gear accelerations.

If you look at for example Ypres 2015 where Princen and Abbring drove virtually the same car, Abbring was much faster (until he crashed)

[dimviii]

So the better torque of Princen with fabia didn't helped him.

[Andre Oliveira]

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[br21]

Enginewise PSA cars are not that bad. Sure ALS is not that aggressive like in Ford or Skoda, and you even can't choose any level of it. So it makes the difference in slow corners. Fabia has most torque but it's not easy to see in the videos as it has also longest gears so that Nm difference is "lost" with gearing on slower sections, of course it helps on high gears.
For tarmac PSA cars are not much worse. Reliability is biggest problem, not easy to set-up also and difficult to drive, but with good driver for sure very fast. They are closes to race cars from all R5 - very direct on steering, reacting fast, etc. Which of course is not an advantage on gravel, fast gravel especially.