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Thread: WRC Testing
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30th April 2021, 08:09 #10991
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Just nearly.
I think the car looks more balanced. They put battery weight exactly where it should be. However you don´t see any travel of center of balance (?) when braking. And also looks VERY heavy in suspension when landing.
So, to me looks slower, but we´ll have to deal with it in the future..."Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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30th April 2021, 08:12 #10992
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Here we go again judging car performance from test videos, and even from very early tests. Also good to remember that likely the drivers won't drive it as hard as Ogier or Tänak on a pre-event test because wrecking it would delay the development crucially.
When you say it looks heavy on jump landings, remember that suspension travel has been reduced for the new cars.Last edited by AnttiL; 30th April 2021 at 08:28.
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30th April 2021, 09:15 #10993
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30th April 2021, 09:39 #10994
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Just reading this again from Neuvillr last year...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuvi...on-all-stages/
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30th April 2021, 10:12 #10995
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The hybrid boost supposedly is used only on stage starts and slow corner exits. Also the cars will not go as fast in all places as current WRC cars because of changes in aero, suspension and transmission. In a way they will be closer to Group B cars with high power but more primitive chassis.
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30th April 2021, 11:12 #10996
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Last edited by Mirek; 30th April 2021 at 11:17.
Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump
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30th April 2021, 11:47 #10997
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30th April 2021, 12:58 #10998
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People. That´s me in this case.
And yes conclusions are allowed, don´t you think.
And I watched rallycars for ages, and yes I stand for what I´m saying.
What I didn´t know about is suspension travel. Has it been shortened for 2022, you say AnttiL?
I also wonder about min weight, is it still 1200 kgs with 200 kgs of batterypack?"Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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30th April 2021, 13:33 #10999
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I'm happy enough from looking at the videos. The noise and drama look to be still there and that's what I loved when watching it live.
Sure it looks a little bit slower at the moment but this is very early days and it doesnt look bad/sound at all. I'd say come the start of next year these will be almost as good as the 2017 cars to watch and for me thats all I was hoping for, once its not a huge step back I'm satisfied.
Nothing will beat watching WRC cars driven at full chat, Ive seen the 2litre (2007+), 1.6 and the latest machines and every one has been amazing, particularly the 17 WRCs.
Looking forward to seeing these in anger in 2022 in Northern Ireland/Finland if all goes to plan!
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30th April 2021, 14:42 #11000
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This is from a FIA newsletter in 2020
Transmission:
- 4WD, five-speed transmission very similar in concept to the current Rally2 rules
- Simple level type differential, no centre differential, only one kinematic drive train
- A maximum of six transmission units per car per year permitted
Suspension:
- Reduced wheel travel
- Simplified dampers with reduced scope for homologation upgrades
- Hubs, hub carriers and anti-roll bar designs will be simplified
- Only one specification of wishbone mandated
Running gear:
- Liquid brake cooling no longer allowed
Fuel tank:
- Simplified shape
Aerodynamics:
- Free volume bodywork area to enable aggressive design maintained
- Aero effect from hidden ducts removed
- Rear aerodynamic advice simplified
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