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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    make sure you communicate this to the teams, they spend money for no reason on aero R&D all these years while the answer is simple.
    Aero is inferior compared to the gains to be made elsewhere I meant, I'm sure you understood that...

    Of course when you have maximized the other aspects of your current homologated package you will chase aero.

    Let's be realistic, stages have been won plenty of times without rear wings, wheel arches gone etc etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Aero is inferior compared to the gains to be made elsewhere I meant, I'm sure you understood that...

    Of course when you have maximized the other aspects of your current homologated package you will chase aero.

    Let's be realistic, stages have been won plenty of times without rear wings, wheel arches gone etc etc...
    Have you seen Solberg in Mökkiperä or Neuville in Finland last year?
    They didn't win the stage without a rear wing for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    Let's be realistic, stages have been won plenty of times without rear wings, wheel arches gone etc etc...
    can you name one, because i cannot remember...

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    Remember how much time Latvala lost in Wales 2014 without rear wing... The rear end of the car was all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommeke_B View Post
    Remember how much time Latvala lost in Wales 2014 without rear wing... The rear end of the car was all over the place.
    S10 Impreza WRC had something like 100kg pressure at 100kph, that's quite a lot. Correct me if I'm wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atob WRC View Post
    Here our video from Hyundai Gravel Tests at Costa Brava!!

    Strange that John Kennard is not at codriver seats, and his place it´s occupied by Seb Marshall.
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    @sebmarshall Cheers for filling in at Spain test..giving me an extra week with this view out of my office instead������


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    Even very small rear spoiler on R5 Fiesta makes big difference, very difficult to drive without it

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    Quote Originally Posted by SubaruNorway View Post
    S10 Impreza WRC had something like 100kg pressure at 100kph, that's quite a lot. Correct me if I'm wrong
    Definitely possible, maybe even more. A tiny formula student car from my Alma Mater is able to produce 60 kg downforce @ 60 or 80 km/h by it's wings (I don't remember exactly) and that's something as small as a go kart and the force is growing with the speed squared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itix View Post
    I think we are attaching too much value to the aerodynamics... I don't think they are as important as we think they are. Even a formula one car can't actually generate much downforce until they reach 120 plus, and that is towards a smooth track.
    i believe it is quite the opposite.

    formula 1 cars need to be able to reach speeds of over 300km/h, so they actually cannot use really big wings.
    they have long straights, and few corners, so they rarely have a lack of traction. but most importantly: without a high top speed they can't overtake.

    rallying is completely different. you often don't have enough traction, but very few moments where you hit top speed. and you don't need to overtake.
    so here it is much better to sacrifice some top speed to gain traction through a much bigger wing.

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