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    It appears from the story you're right. I knew it...

    It appears from the story you're right. I knew it was very close. The CART incident at Michigan and the IRL incident at Charlotte caused both to adopt the F1 procedure. Gary, you're right about there...
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    Half right, I believe, Rex. IRL mandated the...

    Half right, I believe, Rex. IRL mandated the wheel tethers first, CART did the HANS first. I could be wrong.
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    Big allegations. Great copout. I find your...

    Big allegations. Great copout. I find your comments exceedingly questionable because nobody else here seems to remember them, and they're so egregious that I feel certain if the comments were made,...
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    Well, PRECISELY is what my question demands when...

    Well, PRECISELY is what my question demands when you make such accusations and I almost certainly would remember if he said anything like you picture. Everyone would.

    And PRECISELY what was...
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    Just what did Tony say in print that ticks you...

    Just what did Tony say in print that ticks you off so much? I can't recall him saying anything inflammatory in any way from that accident.

    As for your assertions about safety, and everything that...
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    Baloney. We live and learn. Where was the...

    Baloney. We live and learn. Where was the Internet 20 years ago? The gearbox issue has been fixed. The "flying cars" phenomenon has been fixed, although don't expect a car not to "fly" if a wheel...
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    Miatanut, that, IMO, is patently ridiculous. The...

    Miatanut, that, IMO, is patently ridiculous. The elements of safety in racing at the time were as good as they could be. Technology and thinking has improved them since. That's just how things and...
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    The talk wasn't centered so much about Marcelo as...

    The talk wasn't centered so much about Marcelo as a driver but the whole team -- Antonio Ferrari's bunch wasn't much and he wasn't particularly good at paying his bills, which made the race car...
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    I recall no such smear campaign against the late...

    I recall no such smear campaign against the late Jovy Marcelo. I remember something about a helmet or seat belt system not being right for some reason but it didn't constitute a smear campaign.

    If...
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    Well, Miatanut, go to Indy then.....and hear 33...

    Well, Miatanut, go to Indy then.....and hear 33 of 'em scream by the way you describe.
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    Knowing how those negotiations go, and...

    Knowing how those negotiations go, and "activation money" being negotiated back into them, I can understand what Brown is talking about and it's not a TV time buy. Since Brown is an agency, with more...
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    http://thescore.ibj.com/content/?p=484#respond

    http://thescore.ibj.com/content/?p=484#respond
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    What would those be that you're referring to?

    What would those be that you're referring to?
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    Didn't hear it, Gary, but if you say they...

    Didn't hear it, Gary, but if you say they speculated on it, I believe you.
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    Ken, you are a master of misrepresentation. If...

    Ken, you are a master of misrepresentation.

    If you said that the direction acts like the old PPG Indy Car World Series in the '80s, when PPG powered CART with serious bucks at the time and grew...
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    Yep. Both road races. Only ex-(or current) CC...

    Yep. Both road races.

    Only ex-(or current) CC fans still talk about standing starts. Fuel settings have been around for some time. Parades come on road and street courses and that's just a natural...
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    Closer to "CART II" in respect to schedule, NOT...

    Closer to "CART II" in respect to schedule, NOT mimicking a failed business model. The schedule and the business plan are very different, starting with one series instead of two.

    I don't know who...
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    Well, Brent, just hold that thought and grudge as...

    Well, Brent, just hold that thought and grudge as long as you want to hold it. Your decision. I've never seen quotes from any of the competitors -- on either side -- who think that way.

    It's one...
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    1. Jimmy Hendricks is not the norm there. 2....

    1. Jimmy Hendricks is not the norm there.

    2. They are not CC guys now. They are IRL guys.
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    Brent, I don't see any "disgust" about it in...

    Brent, I don't see any "disgust" about it in general at T*****. I see most of the IRL folks talking racing....granted, some are talking negatively about the IRL considering adoption of some CC...
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    I don't think anyone expects Danica to be the...

    I don't think anyone expects Danica to be the "saviour." She is A catalyst. Not THE catalyst. Blendification is a catalyst. Helio winning on Dancing with the Stars and developing the fence climb as a...
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    Then why do several forums contain multiple...

    Then why do several forums contain multiple wishes for a race at Road America?

    IMO, but I think you may be speaking for fewer people than you're attempting to lead us to believe.
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    Nothing wrong with that, Chap.....I was just...

    Nothing wrong with that, Chap.....I was just dealing in reality....gosh, CART was crapping on Road America BEFORE the split......when you say it will take time, I agree that it will, probably a...
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    Chap, "traditional value?" CART moved Road...

    Chap, "traditional value?"

    CART moved Road America all over its schedule from July to October for years. Its fans tired of it and started coming in less numbers in the late '90s and early 2000s....
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    I know we all like those venues, Chap, but...

    I know we all like those venues, Chap, but finances and a promoter's decision to undertake the risk of finances for an Indycar race at all three of the venues you mentioned are very suspect and the...
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