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The "Hutchins Device", no I don't think so. I believe everyone has gone to the HANS instead.

Gary

BINGO!!! That was the device!

Thanks,

Gary

I believe that is correct, but didn't the IRL use the other device (the name escapes me) at that time and then latter drop it for the HANS? Or am I mixing that up with another series??? I know...

My memory is a bit fuzzy here, but at that particular time wasn't there still an issue with the one Fitch had, where the car's wheel could become instantly lodged in the barrier, whipping the car...

Does that include the announcers on the internet video of practice on Friday? There was quite a bit of talk about it there.

Gary

I think he is most likely feeling a bit "sanguine" per definition number 2 below...

san·guine http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png - [sang-gwin]
–adjective
1.cheerfully...

Aw, come on there IC. You are making just too much sense with this statement! <big ol' grin>

Gary

You noticed in my first reply I had some restraint. I though, ok, the writing is on the wall, maybe the leopard will change its spots. So I backed off. Then he came forth with his usual drivel,...

Past history is pock marked with venues going away in BOTH series. You make it sound like this is the sole provenience of the IRL. You know very well that is not the case. Besides didn't we just see...

Are you going to post these somewhere? Are you going to keep stats for each race or just a running total? If the latter, you might want to segregate oval laps vs. non-ovals. I think that might be...

Good point about the miles driven in practice and/or qualifying and the incidents there. To get even more accurate numbers those could be taken into account as well.

And you are right his...

Ok, you are zeroing in on some REAL numbers. Good. But the best comparison would be accidents per driven mile.

Take your numbers you have for each event and average that against the number of...

Ah, I see. So you want to take my single sentence from a thread and insinuate that I am the one being callous or sophomoric? You really are a piece of work. tbyars and I were attempting to show how...

Sorry, no that is not effective data at all when you were talking about the number of crashes. Now you want to switch horses and talk about the number of deaths.

Nope, keep it on topic. What...

But since we were willing to accept the CC attendance numbers for a weekend despite the fact we knew some folks are being counted twice, and I was among those willing, why should we now be unwilling...

"Real IRL fan" ah the magic prejudicial words. What do you know of the real IRL fan, all you know is what you have been spoonfed by the likes of the CCF forum. You wouldn't know a real IRL fan if...

Yes, and if you don't why are you here? I am not suggesting you have to love "...king George", god knows I despise the little weasel. I am just saying if your mind is made up and your expectations...

So was your participation here about the racing or about the "argument"? Now that the "argument" has been more or less settled, you no longer want to participate? What about the racing? Don't...

Papyrus = Paper???

"crowds bigger than Indy", oh please. As much as I have denigrated what has become of the Indy 500 even I don't believe that line for a second.

Please Paper, provide us...

And since when has sense had anything to do with lawyers suing folks and making outrageous claims?

Yes I agree, Dalon makes a lot of sense. But I don't share his optimism that the lawyers will...

Tell that to the lawyers wringing there hands with glee over the prospect of making some $$$$ over this matter. They will attempt to make a case for this with "...king George's" offer to the OWRS...

Jim Jones is preping a big punch bowl right about now...

Gary

Ok, then make it obvious. Use smilies, add "HA! Ha! Ha!" anything to make it obvious. It's fence mendin' time, my friend.

Gary

OK, give it a rest already. Chaimwitz is right, now is NOT the time for this. It looks like we may finally get what we wanted (albeit with "...king George" at the helm... sigh). What's the point of...

April,

In a perfect world that would be great. But in the real world of racing where Madison Ave. holds ALL of the cards, the "two series can co-exist" myth is just that, a myth. I posted a...