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    They dont want to support Rally2-kit...

    They dont want to support Rally2-kit...
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    General classification

    General classification
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    We will see some of these cars this year in ERC2...

    We will see some of these cars this year in ERC2 (for first and last year), so we will see...
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    This cars were never planned to compete with R5...

    This cars were never planned to compete with R5 cars, but to replace group N Mitsubishis and Subarus.
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    It is impossible to track correctly...

    It is impossible to track correctly WRC/R5/S2000/S1600/R2 cars, with R4 it will be very similar...
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    But problem with this project is that...

    But problem with this project is that manufacturers are not interested in it. And Skoda was one of the teams which were fighting against R4 as they dont want that some private build cars will start...
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    I think we will see some R4 cars in ERC next year...

    I think we will see some R4 cars in ERC next year ;)
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    The main reason why there were only four regulars...

    The main reason why there were only four regulars were that FIA introduced that stupid rule about mandatory racing fuel tanks. I know about other 3-4 crews which were planning to do. Which is not so...
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    Yes, that is another problem. R4 cars should be...

    Yes, that is another problem. R4 cars should be in different class than R5 cars. And thats not true, not only overall results are most important for the sponsors. Because with this logic you should...
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    Eurosport was trying to have R4 in ERC2 also for...

    Eurosport was trying to have R4 in ERC2 also for 2018, but it was refused by FIA. We will see what will happen for 2019. There are some teams interested in doing ERC with R4 next year...
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    I dont agree with you. Comparison with S2000 is...

    I dont agree with you. Comparison with S2000 is not the best, because you are talking about same cars in category. R4 was from beginning thought as lower class than R5, it should be a step between R5...
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    Sorry, it is not so difficult to find it in...

    Sorry, it is not so difficult to find it in english...

    https://www.oreca.com/en/manufacturer/#fia-r4
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    If you are counting also RRC, in that case you...

    If you are counting also RRC, in that case you forgot Mini.
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    But expensive...

    But expensive...
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    Hmm, I didnt know that some posts must be...

    Hmm, I didnt know that some posts must be confirmed...
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    Older version of R4 for Mitsubishi and Subaru was...

    Older version of R4 for Mitsubishi and Subaru was bad way. It helped to modify some parts, but in basic it was still group N car and other parts were not dimensioned for other stronger parts...
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    I have heard rumours that Oreca asked FIA to...

    I have heard rumours that Oreca asked FIA to increase this basic price 108 000 euro...
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    Also not cheap...

    Also not cheap...
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    From beginning I told that Oreca is not the best...

    From beginning I told that Oreca is not the best way. Or completely the way how FIA is going with direct offer to one company. It should be more cheaper than presented version...

    Does anybody here...
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    Proto cars from Dytko are different than official...

    Proto cars from Dytko are different than official R4 kits from FIA...
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    Oreca was from beginning only one supplier,...

    Oreca was from beginning only one supplier, directly asked by FIA...
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    The idea of FIA is to make a rule, which allow to...

    The idea of FIA is to make a rule, which allow to make a "kit", which you should be able to use in different cars...
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